What do you think the world has more of: Love or Hate?

Started by Hit_and_Miss4 pages
Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, I just take what the Simpsons say as fact...so ...I don't believe you (just for those of you who are not able to detect jokes, this, indeed, was a joke)

if ya wana know.. About the time of the industrial rev, England created machine.. These machines ment there was less need for the workers... so they got fired.. And pissed... So they would break into the work places and trash the machinery to get there jobs back...

these luddites (sm) then got there ass kicked out of england.. along with the rest of the slag's... and austraila was born...

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
if ya wana know.. About the time of the industrial rev, England created machine.. These machines ment there was less need for the workers... so they got fired.. And pissed... So they would break into the work places and trash the machinery to get there jobs back...

these luddites (sm) then got there ass kicked out of england.. along with the rest of the slag's... and austraila was born...

SO basically what i was saying is right.....anyways that'S not my point at all..I am sure Australia is an awesome country ... just K-Diddy is an ignorant idiot.

yer.. I was just explainning it too you... "if ya wanted to know"

yup.. I agree..🙂

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Hehe. A far smaller percentage of Australians came from criminals then is typically believed, but we like to keep the image going. 🙂 And as to being rude to waiters - I don't think that's hate. Just because a customer is a rude/ self centred/egotistical/elitist/classist/etc doesn't mean they hate them, rather it just means they might be rude/ self centred/egotistical/elitist/classist/etc

Now, as to the question. Hate, really, is a serious thing (looking in broad terms at all hate, the hard stuff, pet hates and all that), a personal thing, a dominating thing. One of the higher echelon negative emotions, and in that sense I don't think it is nearly as common as other emotional/mental states that are considered negative - like anger, envy, fear, etc. Some people hate easily, yes, but I don't think the majority do - at least in any significant way. I think plenty of people can go through life without really ever hating anything, simply because they have never been put in a situation where they have to deal with something that would cause hate to form.

That said, most everyone, bar the stoniest of minds, has the potential to "love"(once again love in the most broad of terms, not the hard to find, high minded, idealistic sort presented by the romantic poets of old) - and usually will in life. They will have kids, wives, pets. They might love a hobby, or the mountains. They can see beauty, feel attraction and all that. The problem of course is that love is a very, very personal thing, acting on an individual scale - while hate is often magnified to huge levels. When someone acts on hate in a significant manor, well, it makes the front pages. When a man gives a bunch of flowers to his wife with a card saying "love you", well, who hears about that? Who cares? Those two people, and very few others.

In this way hate might have a more profound effect on the world, or at least a more visible, obvious effect, but it's not the most common emotion, nor the most frequent. If the question was "Which does the world have more of - love or negative emotions" - I'd quite possibly give it to negative emotions hands down. However in terms of love and hate, the world has more of the former, but the latter is often much more obvious. And I agree mostly about hate often being derived from love - after all, those people who hate often justify it to themselves. Someone mentioned the middle east - hate born from the twisted love of God or whatever. Righteous hate. Justified hate. Noble hate - still hate, but often a reaction caused by the effect of the world on what they love. However a lot of hate can be foolish, ignorant and the like (bigotry, racism, religious extremism, jingoism) - but rarely will the hater see it as anything other justified. Often when portrayed hate is the response to something that is the complete antithesis to someone - a danger to, or completely different from, everything they care about.

Jesus. You do go on a bit.

Must be a criminal trait. 😛

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
As I pointed out, though, that kind of hate generally serves as a reaction to love. For that amount of hate to exist, there has to be a similar amount of love somewhere else.
Well, I don't the origins of their hatred to well. I suppose... somehow... it could've resulted from love. But regardless of whatit originated from, isn't it still hate?

Originally posted by §cooter
Well, I don't the origins of their hatred to well. I suppose... somehow... it could've resulted from love. But regardless of whatit originated from, isn't it still hate?

Of course, but if hate is a reaction to love, then they are negating each other.

Take hatred towards another religion: inspired by misguided love of one's own religion.

Not in every case, but you get the idea.

hate.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Of course, but if hate is a reaction to love, then they are negating each other.

Take hatred towards another religion: inspired by misguided love of one's own religion.

Not in every case, but you get the idea.

How long has hate been prevelant there though? If a single year of love spawned over 2 millenia of hate, would that still negate each other?

Originally posted by §cooter
How long has hate been prevelant there though? If a single year of love spawned over 2 millenia of hate, would that still negate each other?

No, but it would be unlikely to happen like that. I do see the point, because hate can fester long after love is gone. I just don't think hate is as prevalent. Perhaps it is more vividly enacted.

But it's not unconditional love.........Gandhi type......Love is not the same as hate.........That is a separate emotion all together, can't be linked.

Originally posted by debbiejo
But it's not unconditional love.........Gandhi type......Love is not the same as hate.........That is a separate emotion all together, can't be linked.

It can be indirectly linked.

Originally posted by debbiejo
But it's not unconditional love.........Gandhi type......Love is not the same as hate.........That is a separate emotion all together, can't be linked.

Of course it can...but you jsut keep living in your Flower world, alright?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Of course it can...but you jsut keep living in your Flower world, alright?
No it can't.........no.no.no....once you leave the feeling of love, it enters to other Rheims....It no long love, but vengeance.

Originally posted by debbiejo
No it can't.........no.no.no....once you leave the feeling of love, it enters to other Rheims....It no long love, but vengeance.

What the ****?

Originally posted by Bardock42
What the ****?
Oh, forget about it......It's just philosophical.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Oh, forget about it......It's just philosophical.

What was Philosophical aboot that?

Originally posted by Bardock42
What was Philosophical aboot that?
What love is...I mean what real love is.....We don't have a definitiion here.....so I go by what I think it should be. .

Whenever I get gloomy with the state of the world, I think about the arrivals gate at Heathrow Airport. General opinion's starting to make out that we live in a world of hatred and greed, but I don't see that. Seems to me that love is everywhere. Often it's not particularly dignified or newsworthy, but it's always there - fathers and sons, mothers and daughters, husbands and wives, boyfriends, girlfriends, old friends. When the planes hit the Twin Towers, as far as I know, none of the phone calls from the people on board were messages of hate or revenge - they were all messages of love. If you look for it, I've got a sneaky feeling you'll find that love actually is all around.

I can't decide, i thinktheres a balance at the moment (in the UK)