What is the Point of Love if it is going to Hurt you?

Think of creatures that are blind, but those who see know that the colors are there. Some people are blind to what love truly is.
Now imagine that a creator out there that loves us, yet we do not acknowledge that and love him. Perhaps when we all learn to see him and love him, we will learn how to love others and be loved.

Love is not what you get out of a relationship, love is what you give to it. True love is a choice, not a feeling. The feeling is just a reward for doing what our creator wants us to do. How many parents have listened to their kids scream "I hate you" when the child didn't get what they wanted? Yet the parent still chooses to love their child. They make that choice and because they make that choice, the love is eventually reciprocated again.

The world is what we make it. If we have no respect for another person's affections, we will all go out and continue hurting others.

Too many people see love as possession. It has nothing to do with that. Love should be treated more as a respect for another. An honor to them. Instead we treat people as property and we try to control them. Why not learn from them instead? Even very misguided people can have some wonderful strengths that get them through life.

Learn from love, don't try to box it up. If you do that, you will have it forever.... even if the person who inspires goes a different direction.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
No one likes to be hurt. Physically nor mentality. And you know relationships don't last. Why struggle to find love and happiness with another person? When there is a high chance that person might hurt your feelings in the future? Do we really have sadistic desires? Are we really beings that enjoy pain? Is that why we fall in love?

Come on you Romantics come here and correct me. 😉

Think of the failed relationships as trial and error.

Originally posted by lord xyz
What definition of love are you using?

huh? love, as in LOVE. when your self stops mattering. your willing to die for the other person. you possibly have a bond with te other person. youd die before let a hair on the one be plucked. euphoria. exquisite extremes of joy that are unparalleled and thought impossible in everyday life{when ur with em}.

get it.

Originally posted by Defiant1
Think of creatures that are blind, but those who see know that the colors are there. Some people are blind to what love truly is.
Now imagine that a creator out there that loves us, yet we do not acknowledge that and love him. Perhaps when we all learn to see him and love him, we will learn how to love others and be loved.

Love is not what you get out of a relationship, love is what you give to it. True love is a choice, not a feeling. The feeling is just a reward for doing what our creator wants us to do. How many parents have listened to their kids scream "I hate you" when the child didn't get what they wanted? Yet the parent still chooses to love their child. They make that choice and because they make that choice, the love is eventually reciprocated again.

The world is what we make it. If we have no respect for another person's affections, we will all go out and continue hurting others.

Too many people see love as possession. It has nothing to do with that. Love should be treated more as a respect for another. An honor to them. Instead we treat people as property and we try to control them. Why not learn from them instead? Even very misguided people can have some wonderful strengths that get them through life.

Learn from love, don't try to box it up. If you do that, you will have it forever.... even if the person who inspires goes a different direction.

You should work for Hallmark. People love that mushy stuff.

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Originally posted by leonheartmm
huh? love, as in LOVE. when your self stops mattering. your willing to die for the other person. you possibly have a bond with te other person. youd die before let a hair on the one be plucked. euphoria. exquisite extremes of joy that are unparalleled and thought impossible in everyday life{when ur with em}.

get it.

Originally posted by lord xyz
That's devotion...

i forgot to mention. youd melt if the other person took u in their arms, or maybe even gave u a meaningful look or showed interest. ud die if kissed{figuratively}, n u forgot the joy part, ud die{literally} if ur not with ur mate, u wanna spend ur entire life with em.

devotion is a big part of it. but then there euphoria, passion, insanity, pain, n htings which cant be described in words. joy, the works. u know.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
i forgot to mention. youd melt if the other person took u in their arms, or maybe even gave u a meaningful look or showed interest. ud die if kissed{figuratively}, n u forgot the joy part, ud die{literally} if ur not with ur mate, u wanna spend ur entire life with em.

devotion is a big part of it. but then there euphoria, passion, insanity, pain, n htings which cant be described in words. joy, the works. u know.

Let me rephrase my original question:

What kind of love are we talking about here: Love as in doing anything for someone/something to keep it doing what it does?

Okay, Love sees what is unseen, and it knows what no other knows....love is a secret thing.......It is so, because the heart is a secret thing that may not share. But outward love is a telling thing that others can see.........thus love is a energy that can be ignored or not......it just is what can feel..........With that, it can hurt you. And with that you may let it do so...It is your choice.......

Love is blind

And it will take over ur mind

what u think is love

is truly not

u need to elevate and finnd

love is blind

Originally posted by lord xyz
...Affection, satisfaction?

Let me rephrase my original question:

What kind of love are we talking about here: Love as in doing anything for someone/something to keep it doing what it does?

affection/joy/adoration{if thats a word}/passion/fondness/selflessness/inability to see the other suffer/desire to please the others.

all of these things define part of love but none of them ARE love. love is a unique fealing whihc can not bedefined completely based on other definition{or with their help}. that is why it has the unique name "LOVE". its like telling sum1 to give the definition of existance. you cud say lack of non existance. but then when asked to define non existance, ud say lack of existance right? it becomes ultimately circular. that is why the word is there to hint at defining sumthing basically abstract.

and maybe it wud help if u didnt look at things from such an inanimate perspective like they were robots or systems of entropy or sumthing.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
affection/joy/adoration{if thats a word}/passion/fondness/selflessness/inability to see the other suffer/desire to please the others.

all of these things define part of love but none of them ARE love. love is a unique fealing whihc can not bedefined completely based on other definition{or with their help}. that is why it has the unique name "LOVE". its like telling sum1 to give the definition of existance. you cud say lack of non existance. but then when asked to define non existance, ud say lack of existance right? it becomes ultimately circular. that is why the word is there to hint at defining sumthing basically abstract.

and maybe it wud help if u didnt look at things from such an inanimate perspective like they were robots or systems of entropy or sumthing.

Inanimate? No. Love isn't undefinable. Love is like to the point you think it's perfect. Nothing more. I would've said that sooner, but couldn't find a good way to explain it. Also, this is more fun.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
Love is blind

And it will take over ur mind

what u think is love

is truly not

u need to elevate and finnd

love is blind

love is ultimately undefineable. YES thats veyr true. obviously it has certain features which can be generalised to give it some resemblance of form, but no, it isnt really DEFINEABLE.

Love is like to the point you think it's perfect. Or, to expand on that:

Love is like to the point you think it's perfect, and being with it, is the best you could be.

Likewise:

Hate is dislike to the point you think it's anti-perfect, and being with it, is the worst you could be.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Love is like to the point you think it's perfect. Or, to expand on that:

Love is like to the point you think it's perfect, and being with it, is the best you could be.

Likewise:

Hate is dislike to the point you think it's anti-perfect, and being with it, is the worst you could be.

"your" definition. not saying it doesnt hold in a lot of cases. but ultimately, its one of the nearly infinite number which try to define love.

ill give you an example. linda goodman{author of "love signs"} defines it through the zodiac{n its a pretty nice and general definition}

THE TWELVE INITIATIONS OF LOVE

In each of the following expiriences, man or woman is fully capable of giving and teaching others the first quality, but for the peroson to learn the second quality is a struggle. when one's understanding of this second quality equals that of the first, he or she has then achieved mastery of a particular sun sign. The soul must pass "more than once" through the first six initiations of love as:

aries/the infant/"i am" : to teach that love is innocence and learn that love is trust

taurus/the baby/"i have" : to teach that love is patience and learn that love is forgiveness

gemini/the child/"i think" : to teach that love is awareness and learn that love is fealing

cancer/the adolescent/"i feal" : to teach that love is devotion and learn that love is freedom

leo/the teenager/"i will" : to teach that love is ecstacy and learn that love is humility

virgo/the adult/"i analyse" : to teach that love is pure and learn that love is fullfilment

after achieving emotional maturity in these first six stages of development, man and woman must then pass through love's final six initiations{more than once} to discover its deeper spiritual meaning in :

libra/marriage/"i balance" : to teach that love is beauty and learn that love is harmony

scorpio/sex/"i desire" : to teach that love is passion and learn that love is surrender

sagittarius/knowledge/"i see" : to teach that love is honesty and learn that love is loyalty

capricorn/expirience/"i use" : to teach that love is wisdom and learn that love is unselfish

aquarius/idealism/"i know" : to teach that love is tolerance and learn that love is oneness

pisces/submission/"i believe" : to teach that love is compassion and learn that love is ALL

and so to realise at last that love is

ETERNAL

now how much of the above you buy, doesnt matter, but other than perhaps the connection to the zodiac{which is based in faith and cud be signifying more than factual}. u cant say there isnt truth to every statement there. perhaps not ultimate truth, but truth nonetheless. yet even that cant DEFINE love in itself. just TRY and define it in one way or another.

it is ultimately undefineable and mysterious.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
now how much of the above you buy,

Originally posted by leonheartmm
just TRY and define it in one way or another.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Love is like to the point you think it's perfect. Or, to expand on that:

Love is like to the point you think it's perfect, and being with it, is the best you could be.

Likewise:

Hate is dislike to the point you think it's anti-perfect, and being with it, is the worst you could be.

i was referring more to the statements about what love is.

As someone who has very little compassion and "love", I believe I should be one of the people who's opinion is most considerd.

The point of the excersize isn't nesscarly to feel good, but to feel. Feeling is nature's way of keeping us in reality. Without feeling, we wouldn't know if we were being burned alive.

Well, just as we have physiqual feeling to warn us of eminent danger, so to do we have emotional feelings. When we feel hurt emotionaly, that's our natural insticts to avoid it again. Not to say we need to avoid love, as then we wouldn't feel anything. And that's not bennefical to you either.

The point is to minimize the threat and maxmimize the goods.

Now how to go about doing that is increddibly difficult, but it is acheivable. Notice some people are happy as clams. Not to say they never feel hurt, but they're generaly happier then you. Thus that makes them more succesful then you.

Unless you dope yourself out you're going to feel emotions anyway. Maybe not broken heart syndrome, but you're still going to feel jealousy, anger, fear, depression, desire, and a slew of other shit.

So, you may as well go looking for someone to knock boots with. And this is from someone who just brokeup with his girlfriend. I try to avoid feeling sorry for myself, i'm not the only person in the God-damn world who's had a skank for a girlfriend, and I ceartainly won't be the last.

It's my duty to minimize my pain and maximize my happyness.

Which conviently comes in the form of making my ex a miserable, hallow, shell of a person.

If we can feel horrible from a breakup, that just proves how good we can feel in a relationship. I can assume that as upset as I fealt at the peak of breakup is comparible to the volume of euphoria I will feel when I meet the right person. And I don't believe in all that soul-mate shit. But I do believe there's someone out there who isn't a total ***** and will marry and stay with me.

Love is a feeling... an extremely complicated feeling as sometimes people do not like who they love yet love them just the same... it takes many forms... it cannot be truly defined as it is not instinct, but something else... it is not happiness but something greater, it is not sadness but something... far worse... love is... love

Originally posted by Captain King
As someone who has very little compassion and "love", I believe I should be one of the people who's opinion is most considerd.

The point of the excersize isn't nesscarly to feel good, but to feel. Feeling is nature's way of keeping us in reality. Without feeling, we wouldn't know if we were being burned alive.

Well, just as we have physiqual feeling to warn us of eminent danger, so to do we have emotional feelings. When we feel hurt emotionaly, that's our natural insticts to avoid it again. Not to say we need to avoid love, as then we wouldn't feel anything. And that's not bennefical to you either.

The point is to minimize the threat and maxmimize the goods.

Now how to go about doing that is increddibly difficult, but it is acheivable. Notice some people are happy as clams. Not to say they never feel hurt, but they're generaly happier then you. Thus that makes them more succesful then you.

Unless you dope yourself out you're going to feel emotions anyway. Maybe not broken heart syndrome, but you're still going to feel jealousy, anger, fear, depression, desire, and a slew of other shit.

So, you may as well go looking for someone to knock boots with. And this is from someone who just brokeup with his girlfriend. I try to avoid feeling sorry for myself, i'm not the only person in the God-damn world who's had a skank for a girlfriend, and I ceartainly won't be the last.

It's my duty to minimize my pain and maximize my happyness.

Which conviently comes in the form of making my ex a miserable, hallow, shell of a person.

If we can feel horrible from a breakup, that just proves how good we can feel in a relationship. I can assume that as upset as I fealt at the peak of breakup is comparible to the volume of euphoria I will feel when I meet the right person. And I don't believe in all that soul-mate shit. But I do believe there's someone out there who isn't a total ***** and will marry and stay with me.

I believe this: We were put here to have fun and enjoy ourselves as long as we don't intentionally hurt anyone else.......sooooo. Love and live!