Originally posted by Bentley
Can Gladiator destroy a planet using cosmic power?What kind of question is that? Can SS destroy a planet? Hell yeah, and it doesn't depend of his mood.
Relax. I was merely posing the question because you said Norrin can do everything Glad can do. I'm not saying Glad wins (I think it's a toss-up for the most part), but just pointing out something that Glad can do (and has done) that I don't believe Surfer can.
Originally posted by nimbus006
Yea, aside from being really fast, Batman can do anything Wally can.
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Can Batman/Is Batman able to:
To run across the surface of large bodies of water--moving so fast that he does not break the surface tension of the water as he runs.
Overcome gravity by running up and down vertical surfaces.
Create wind vortices by running in circles or rotating his arms and legs.
"Lend" velocity to objects or people already in motion
"Steal" the speed of others and utilizing it himself.
Vibrate his molecules so fast he can travel through objects such as walls.
Use his incredibly fast reflexes in order to withstand powerful blows.
Gain infinite force or weight as he approaches light speed, resulting in extremely heavy blows.
Create after-images of himself.
Vibrate so that light does not reflect off him sufficiently, rendering him invisible
To speed up his natural healing process.
Talk at a super-speed whereas only other super-speedsters can receive, interpret and return communication at the same velocity.
Etc.
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Originally posted by Metalmanx
Relax. I was merely posing the question because you said Norrin can do everything Glad can do. I'm not saying Glad wins (I think it's a toss-up for the most part), but just pointing out something that Glad can do (and has done) that I don't believe Surfer can.
Surfer may or may not (he's never really tried) be able to destroy a planet with a punch, but he certaintly can destroy one with a blast.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
🤨Can Batman/Is Batman able to:
To run across the surface of large bodies of water--moving so fast that he does not break the surface tension of the water as he runs.
Overcome gravity by running up and down vertical surfaces.
Create wind vortices by running in circles or rotating his arms and legs.
"Lend" velocity to objects or people already in motion
"Steal" the speed of others and utilizing it himself.
Vibrate his molecules so fast he can travel through objects such as walls.
Use his incredibly fast reflexes in order to withstand powerful blows.
Gain infinite force or weight as he approaches light speed, resulting in extremely heavy blows.
Create after-images of himself.
Vibrate so that light does not reflect off him sufficiently, rendering him invisible
To speed up his natural healing process.
Talk at a super-speed whereas only other super-speedsters can receive, interpret and return communication at the same velocity.
Etc.?
Congratulations for listing all the things Flash can do which are all derived from his ability to move REALLY fast.
The guy said Gladiator can do all the things Surfer can aside from his vast energy projection and cosmic awareness.
Why would you remove a characters best powersets, and then say, besides that so and so can do everything he can?
I think you understand exactly what I'm trying to say.
Originally posted by nimbus006
Congratulations for listing all the things Flash can do which are all derived from his ability to move REALLY fast.The guy said Gladiator can do all the things Surfer can aside from his vast energy projection and cosmic awareness.
Why would you remove a characters best powersets, and then say, besides that so and so can do everything he can?
I think you understand exactly what I'm trying to say.
Actually, I realize that I listed most of the things that do require him moving fast. I admit that I wasn't paying that much attention. 😮
But I also listed ones that don't require it, such as the stealing/lending of speed. Just saying.
But hey, that's neither here nor there.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Actually, I realize that I listed most of the things that do require him moving fast. I admit that I wasn't paying that much attention. 😮But I also listed ones that don't require it, such as the stealing/lending of speed. Just saying.
But hey, that's neither here nor there.
The point was, if you're going to say a given character can do all the things another given character can do, don't say, except for the latter's greatest ability. 🙂
Originally posted by MetalmanxYou also forgot make constructs and some others.
🤨Can Batman/Is Batman able to:
To run across the surface of large bodies of water--moving so fast that he does not break the surface tension of the water as he runs.
Overcome gravity by running up and down vertical surfaces.
Create wind vortices by running in circles or rotating his arms and legs.
"Lend" velocity to objects or people already in motion
"Steal" the speed of others and utilizing it himself.
Vibrate his molecules so fast he can travel through objects such as walls.
Use his incredibly fast reflexes in order to withstand powerful blows.
Gain infinite force or weight as he approaches light speed, resulting in extremely heavy blows.
Create after-images of himself.
Vibrate so that light does not reflect off him sufficiently, rendering him invisible
To speed up his natural healing process.
Talk at a super-speed whereas only other super-speedsters can receive, interpret and return communication at the same velocity.
Etc.?
Impulse could create speedforce duplicates of himself that could act independantly, and Impulse can fly.
Well, Gladiator owned Thor (when Gladiator used his speed, Thor wasn't even some challenge). Then he took down Tarene. Then he lost to Thor, but Thor takes Gladiator by a surprise and with help.
Then he stalemated Thor when Thor was amped and Gladiator weakened. He owned Hyperion. He owned Binary.
Gladiator fought Silver Surfer once, when Silver Surfer didn't use the radiation, it was pretty much a stalemate. That was after Gladiator owned Ego. It would be no surprise if the battle continued and Gladiator would win (if Norrin wouldn't use radiation weakness).
Gladiator can be very dangerous and a serious challenge for Silver Surfer (without using radiation).
Originally posted by MetalmanxYes, and at much higher levels.
🤨Can Batman/Is Batman able to:
To run across the surface of large bodies of water--moving so fast that he does not break the surface tension of the water as he runs.
Overcome gravity by running up and down vertical surfaces.
Create wind vortices by running in circles or rotating his arms and legs.
"Lend" velocity to objects or people already in motion
"Steal" the speed of others and utilizing it himself.
Vibrate his molecules so fast he can travel through objects such as walls.
Use his incredibly fast reflexes in order to withstand powerful blows.
Gain infinite force or weight as he approaches light speed, resulting in extremely heavy blows.
Create after-images of himself.
Vibrate so that light does not reflect off him sufficiently, rendering him invisible
To speed up his natural healing process.
Talk at a super-speed whereas only other super-speedsters can receive, interpret and return communication at the same velocity.
Etc.?
Originally posted by XplosiveNot sure if you're aware of this, but it is worth stating that the story in which Glads and Surfer battled was outside continuity.
Gladiator fought Silver Surfer once, when Silver Surfer didn't use the radiation, it was pretty much a stalemate. That was after Gladiator owned Ego. It would be no surprise if the battle continued and Gladiator would win (if Norrin wouldn't use radiation weakness).Gladiator can be very dangerous and a serious challenge for Silver Surfer (without using radiation).
I do agree that Kallark could be a challenge for Surfer, but I don't think he'd take a majority from Post-Annihilation Surfer. Just sayin'.
Originally posted by Acrosurge
Not sure if you're aware of this, but it is worth stating that the story in which Glads and Surfer battled was outside continuity.
It wasn't. That was after he fought Ego. I am not sure.
Originally posted by Acrosurge
I do agree that Kallark could be a challenge for Surfer, but I don't think he'd take a majority from Post-Annihilation Surfer. Just sayin'.
Yeah, I agree, Silver Surfer after Annihilation, I don't think Gladiator could win, but could be a good training for Norrin.