Originally posted by shin_remy
wikipedia sucks! iknow more bout sf then wikipedia!dude !!@ Gouki
Think about this :
Ryu defeats Gill in sf 3 third strike, he is here on his full max, masterd his hole fightingstyle. [now learnig new fightingstyle from Oro]
Oro is second, and defeated ryu with ease!!!!. Just think about the big gap between Gill --> Oro/Akuma!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
soo Gill is absolutly NOT stronger then Akuma or Oro!!!!
Akuma is the strongest STREET FIGHTER!!!!!!!!!
No. Gill is 1st
Well, it's hard to say what anyone's best is then... since we can arguably say we know the full potential for any character...
Akuma has been developing more and more powerful techniques as time goes by (Acual playable, usable techniques too), he started out with arguably the most controversial and popular move ever devised, the Shun Goku Satsu, Then he gets the Misogi, which is also a crowd pleaser and a very powerful (Overpowerful?) move, then the Kongou Kokoretsu Zan... akuma has very effective and cool moves that OOZE power like a bad oil leak.
However, Oro is a very conservative fighter, and although he defeated Ryu as easily as he falls asleep, few can actually say that that equates to very much compared to Akuma's feats, or Gill's for that matter... After all, Bison acheived the very same feat against Ryu. One on one, Bison kicked both Ryu and Ken's asses. whereas Akuma killed Bison in a single move.
Gill is a slightly different story, Here we have a guy, that for all intents and purposes should be ranked higher than Akuma, but he is actually weaker, the loss to Alex, while intentional, did nothing to save face. Plus, just how many times continuously do some people think that Gill can use his Ressurection ability? I can safely assume around once every 24 hours... why? It uses up his whole super meter, and during that round, the super meter will not regenerate... it tires him out.
It takes more than your average Street Fighter can dish out to truly K.O. Gill Storyline Wise. Ryu's Shin-Shoryuken could possibly do the trick, considering it being one of the most Powerful Super Arts demonstrated in 3rd Strike. Now that I think about it, Hugo was able to get up from a full direct on hit from Ryu's strongest Move. I am guessing that Gill could more or less do the same. True that his Ressurection takes quite a lot of energy out of Gill, but he gets what he trades it for. Not many People in the SF Universe can knock out Gill with a single blow or many for that matter. Akuma was one of the few who actually did with his Shungokusatsu. Gill's powers could potentially make it an almost impossible feat for someone under the power of M. Bison or around Ryu's skill level to not get turned into a popsicle or be burned to a crisp before they could land a blow. Let's also not forget that Gill has his last Super Powerful Seraphic Wing. It doesn't use as much energy as his Ressurection, and I don't know anyone besides the High-Tier SF Fighters to withstand or dodge it entirely.
If he manages to actually get it out before being knocked on his ass (I personally have only ever seen it once, and that was when I first played 3rd strike... every other time one knows what to look for.)
But, for the sake of argument, lets say he got it out. Would he hit with it? or get blocked, plus, once he's used it, he's wide oped to KO attacks due to lack of energy for use in the ressurection (Unless he is successful in keeping his opponent at bay long enough to recharge)
Chip Damage for that move is still roughly 25% of the vitality for characters in 3rd Strike. Translate that into a match on KMC and that equals a lot of pain. Gill's pretty cheap too, his stature helps him get that extra inch to make a blow. That blow is heightened in it's intensity because of it's properties. Either Ice or Fire.
I'm assuming you mean that he did land his Seraphic Wing. Since that move was made to consume it's opponents in a light of energy, it's almost guaranteed to land.
Yeah, but to me, Game-wise, it's easier to him knock out of. I read in the SF Strategy Guide for 3rd Strike, that Seraphic Wing is unparriable, and I looked on Gill's Wikipedia article, and it said it was parriable, but under the hardest of difficulty. I tried and severely got denied. Meteor Shower is a good Super Art to effectively combo off one of Gill's Special Normals. You might be right on it being more reliable than his other Super Art. It depends on how you use it and who you are fighting against. It's hard to get an effective opening on someone who has seen Gill do it all. One aspect of the Move that is hard to detect is how it executes in surprise. I jumped in for an attack one time when I was fighting Gill and completely forgot that he had a full guage and he unleashed that Attack on me.