Originally posted by unrealmanI swear I powered up and did 160 with akuma's mountain-slicer.
well Akuma's Kongou-kokuretsuzan move can slice through a mountain.Kongou Kokuretsu Zan with out power up
84
Kongou Kokuretsu Zan with power up
145
SA III-Seraphic Wing with out power up
96
Seraphic wing with power up
165 ( instant death )
Meteor Strike with out power up
80
Meteor Strke with power up
150
Oro's Yagyou Oodama
Damage: 80
Let me quote you when you said reckless, " I think Oro could easily take out akuma, since akuma is really reckless..". That part you mentioned about Gouki not being able to listen to Oro has nothing to do in the match, since it's mostly fists and little talk. Gouki himself, is not reckless in a match. He is fast, decisive and powerful.
I'll go with Oro here. not going all out w/ one arm sealed vs. akuma (not shin akuma), Oro was kinda not impressed with him on their practice fight. Dunno if that would change drastically if he fights him as shin akuma though, but i'm guessing 100(well ok maybe about 70 or 80 since he was lazy and not practicing canonwise for several years) years worth of training should place him above.
Originally posted by Gouki
Let me quote you when you said reckless, " I think Oro could easily take out akuma, since akuma is really reckless..". That part you mentioned about Gouki not being able to listen to Oro has nothing to do in the match, since it's mostly fists and little talk. Gouki himself, is not reckless in a match. He is fast, decisive and powerful.
he is wreckless due to his power... if you noticed he's always burning and shaking.. while other very powerful fighters such as gil are very calm
achieving a calm within oneself is a goal for many fighters, which is why you mostly see the good ones mditating alot
akuma always seems as though he wants to wash over his opponent in a tidal wave of power.. which I think is because he doesnt understand how to control himself, which in turn shows a lack of wisdom.. something that Oro has much of
Thats more of a display of power on akuma's part, and Gill is always shedding flames and Icicles during his normal fighting stance, and burning through his robes at the start...
What your describing is RESTRAINT, not lack of control, remember, the Satsui No hadou is a violent type of energy that normal humans are never meant to posess..., it's strength and it's violent nature are usually too much for the human body to control, much like Psycho power.
Gill has a different kind of power doesnt he?.. some kind of wierd divine stuff.. so thats expected.. he's very calm and in control
what I see in akuma is *shake* *burn* fireball launch.. that kind of approach.. its just like the dark side of the force hehe.. all power and no finesse
does Oro not posess finesse?
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
Gill has a different kind of power doesnt he?.. some kind of wierd divine stuff.. so thats expected.. he's very calm and in controlwhat I see in akuma is *shake* *burn* fireball launch.. that kind of approach.. its just like the dark side of the force hehe.. all power and no finesse
does Oro not posess finesse?
When he shakes that's just him powering up really.
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
Gill has a different kind of power doesnt he?.. some kind of wierd divine stuff.. so thats expected.. he's very calm and in controlwhat I see in akuma is *shake* *burn* fireball launch.. that kind of approach.. its just like the dark side of the force hehe.. all power and no finesse
does Oro not posess finesse?
Thats because Akuma does not need Finesse that much, that does not equate to lack of control, to use an example you've come up with, Palpatine came up with incredibly subtle strategies and tactics to fulfill his ploy (From Eps1 to 3) and had the patience to wait a considerable time for them to reach completion.
It's called the act of discretion, Akuma is indeed heavy handed in nearly all encounters with him, but he has become so powerful that he doesn't need finesse very often.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Thats because Akuma does not need Finesse that much, that does not equate to lack of control, to use an example you've come up with, Palpatine came up with incredibly subtle strategies and tactics to fulfill his ploy (From Eps1 to 3) and had the patience to wait a considerable time for them to reach completion.It's called the act of discretion, Akuma is indeed heavy handed in nearly all encounters with him, but he has become so powerful that he doesn't need finesse very often.
palpatine also force lightning'ed windu so bad he abused himself...
but I'm one to believe grace rips power to shreds at all times.. all it really takes is one moment of arrogant thinking hehe.. still I admire Oro's 'centuries old' wisdom... he has to be more schooled than akuma after that long