Metaphorically, people often refer to anything that consists of many individual parts working in harmony with one another, to be a "well oiled machine". Literally though, it's a mechanical item, system or tool created by man to carry out a task on its own via "A.I", or created to be used by man to carry out a task. Eg: Worktools etc.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Metaphorically, people often refer to anything that consists of many individual parts working in harmony with one another, to be a "well oiled machine". Literally though, it's a mechanical item, system or tool created by man to carry out a task on its own via "A.I", or created to be used by man to carry out a task. Eg: Worktools etc.-AC
Bioengineers would disagree, as would many Doctore and Cognitive scientists - trust me on this. Good use of the dictionary AC 😉
Man IS a machine, its a complicated organic Robot.
Whena car is smashed, Its peices are thrown out of allignment, and it doesn't work anymore.
When we are shoot, fall off a cliff, crushed, our peices are also thrown off allignment, and we stop working.
As simple as that.
If cars don't go to heaven, we sure as hell don't.
There is no heaven, its the end.
Originally posted by Koala MeatPie
Man IS a machine, its a complicated organic Robot.Whena car is smashed, Its peices are thrown out of allignment, and it doesn't work anymore.
When we are shoot, fall off a cliff, crushed, our peices are also thrown off allignment, and we stop working.
As simple as that.
If cars don't go to heaven, we sure as hell don't.
There is no heaven, its the end.
Truth!
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Bioengineers would disagree, as would many Doctore and Cognitive scientists - trust me on this. Good use of the dictionary AC 😉
I don't care if they'd disagree or not. I'm not posting here to please them or get their approval.
When our vital organs are destroyed we die. When a machine's parts are smashed, it stops working.
The difference between the two is that humans are organic living beings. Machines couldn't exist without humans.
Humans aren't machines.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I don't care if they'd disagree or not. I'm not posting here to please them or get their approval.
I'm glad you wouldn't get it
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
When our vital organs are destroyed we die. When a machine's parts are smashed, it stops working.
You're right!
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The difference between the two is that humans are organic living beings. Machines couldn't exist without humans.
hmm could not be created without a human - but some space probes have not had human contact for 30 years and are still transmitting and genetically engineered "viruses" no longer need man at all. Your understanding of machine is very narrow and lacks imagination! I guess you find Science hard?
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Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
hmm could not be created without a human - but some space probes have not had human contact for 30 years and are still transmitting and genetically engineered "viruses" no longer need man at all. Your understanding of machine is very narrow and lacks imagination! I guess you find Science hard?
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Hahaha, no. I don't find science "hard". I lack imagination? I swear you just agreed with a guy when he said "We die, there's no Heaven, it's the end." Hypocricy flying everywhere.
Secondly your flawed logic here amuses me: "hmm could not be created without a human - but some space probes have not had human contact for 30 years and are still transmitting and genetically engineered "viruses" no longer need man at all"
So? Who created them? Humans. They were designed to be self-sustaining and not need human attention and upkeep, that doesn't equate to them being able to be created without us.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Hahaha, no. I don't find science "hard". I lack imagination? I swear you just agreed with a guy when he said "We die, there's no Heaven, it's the end." Hypocricy flying everywhere.Secondly your flawed logic here amuses me: "hmm could not be created without a human - but some space probes have not had human contact for 30 years and are still transmitting and genetically engineered "viruses" no longer need man at all"
So? Who created them? Humans. They were designed to be self-sustaining and not need human attention and upkeep, that doesn't equate to them being able to be created without us.
-AC
So you think a machine has to be created by man! I see - again an extremely narrow perspective man emulates nature you see AC. Machines will one day design and build themselves auto ACAD and CAM are the begining.
Re: What do you think a machine is!
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Biomechanics would argue men are machines!
Some cognitive scientists would argue the brain is a machine and emotion is a set of computer viruses that create our conciousness, that we are purely a product of infection! What do you think! I will post later 🙂
Biomechs would be right. If you wear that lens, that's exactly how human beings will appear, a reliable (perhaps valid) "as if." Yup. I quite agree.
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
So you think a machine has to be created by man! I see again an extremely narrow perspective man emulates nature. Machines will one day design and build themselves auto ACAD and CAM are the begining.
Yes, machines do have to be created by man. It has always been this way and it is this way now.
Your last line is pure speculation and only when this happens will your claim hold any water. They don't go around creating themselves now, so you're quite wrong.
Silly you, you can't counter a factual part of the world with a "Well in the future...". Conceptual Vs Factual doesn't work.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriWhen our vital organs are destroyed we die. When a machine's parts are smashed, it stops working.
-AC
But you could argue that just like a machine all it takes is to replace the organ and the mechanism will work. Of course the body could reject the donated organ and failed. Thus we're not similar. However, the same can be said about a machine. Even if the proper piece is correct part the whole mechanism could reject the piece and fail just like the human body.
Now, just to be fair you can counter the argument by just saying. "A machine died? It was NEVER alive in the first place".
Play with the words AC. You should be master at this. 😉
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
But you could argue that just like a machine all it takes is to replace the organ and the mechanism will work. Of course the body could reject the donated organ and failed. Thus we're not similar. However, the same can be said about a machine. Even if the proper piece is correct the whole mechanism could reject the piece and fail just like the human body.Now, just to be fair you can counter the argument by just saying. "A machine died? It was NEVER alive in the first place".
Play with the words AC. You should be master at this. 😉
If you read my first post I said that many people refer to anything consisting of multiple parts that rely upon each other as mechanical or machine-like.
Having the crucial ingredients called emotion and life is what sets us apart, or we would be machines. To stand a human next to a robot and say "You're the same" is pathetic.
Why do you think that it's common for someone to be referred to as a machine if they show a lack of humanity, emotion and independence? Because that's how machines are and that's what sets humans apart.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yes, machines do have to be created by man. It has always been this way and it is this way now.Your last line is pure speculation and only when this happens will your claim hold any water. They don't go around creating themselves now, so you're quite wrong.
Silly you, you can't counter a factual part of the world with a "Well in the future...". Conceptual Vs Factual doesn't work.
-AC
Viruses are not alive outside the host they are considered bio machines by many Doctors and Scientists like me! They reproduce. No! You lack knowledge I am quite right!
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Viruses are not alive outside the host they are considered bio machines by many Doctors and Scientists like me! They reproduce. No! You lack knowledge I am quite right!
No, you just consider viruses to be machines. They're living organisms, not mechanical, synthetic "organisms."
Sharing the same attributes or characteristics does not make any two things the same.
-AC