Originally posted by brainchild81its common sense, bruce has the BIGGEST mental advantage on that guy
Then I'm glad I didn't see it. NW's been doing acrobatics damn there since he could walk. Batman's agile, but he's NOT more agile than NW. I've heard NW has a severe mental block when fighting Bruce 'cause he feels like he's fighting his pop. Don't remember where I heard that from though. NW IMO is the most agile non-enhanced hero.
i say bats look bats has more traing in martial arts
now u could say caps strenght,agilaty,speed all that makes up for it
but a 4 foot tall 50 lb shalin monk could take an 8 foot 700 lb guy in one or two hits its about skill here witch bats has he's got more fighting styles then cap does and he's mastered them all u dont see him use them to much caues he likes his gadgets but he realy dont need them when it comes h2h
just has a look on the web when captain a and batman faced off bast said it is conceivable and i looked it up and the word means
conceivable
2 conceivable, IMAGINAL, POSSIBLE
possible to conceive or imagine; "that is one possible answer"
just putting it out there to show bats didint say he would win its possible he could, proberly done before but ahwell
AJ I think this is our one major difference in opinions. You believe in bat-god and I believe the bat-god will fall to the power of Captain America 7/10 times.
Batman is the world's greatest detective and maybe even the greatest martial artist (although I've yet to hear DC be definitive about that). I even think he's a better martial artist than Captain A, but there's a difference between the best at martial arts and the best fighter.
Believe it or not there are people out there who have never had a fighting lesson in their life and they are on par with many great fighters.
When I was 16 this guy who was a 5th degree black belt in taikwon do and a 4th degree in hapkido (I doubt I pronounced either of these right) was picking on my little brother. He was about two years older than me and bigger. I took him down in three moves. I didn't know any martial arts at the time and he did get to swing first.
Now granted that has no grounds here between Batman and Captain America because Captain is not younger (I don't think) and Batman is not picking on his little brother. I merely used that illustration to prove a point that there are natural fighters and martial artists and there are some people with more of a knack for fighting. That knack can more than make up for any lack in knowledge.
Take Deadpool vs Wolverine for instance. Deadpool is nowhere near as knowledgable when it comes to the martial arts and yet DP has taken down Wolverine twice! Same thing here. Captain may not know as much but he knows how to fight. It's a talent. He will take Batman down eventually but I believe it to be the longest and hardest fight of his life.
Originally posted by Psyquis52
AJ I think this is our one major difference in opinions. You believe in bat-god and I believe the bat-god will fall to the power of Captain America 7/10 times.Batman is the world's greatest detective and maybe even the greatest martial artist (although I've yet to hear DC be definitive about that). I even think he's a better martial artist than Captain A, but there's a difference between the best at martial arts and the best fighter.
Believe it or not there are people out there who have never had a fighting lesson in their life and they are on par with many great fighters.
When I was 16 this guy who was a 5th degree black belt in taikwon do and a 4th degree in hapkido (I doubt I pronounced either of these right) was picking on my little brother. He was about two years older than me and bigger. I took him down in three moves. I didn't know any martial arts at the time and he did get to swing first.Now granted that has no grounds here between Batman and Captain America because Captain is not younger (I don't think) and Batman is not picking on his little brother. I merely used that illustration to prove a point that there are natural fighters and martial artists and there are some people with more of a knack for fighting. That knack can more than make up for any lack in knowledge.
Take Deadpool vs Wolverine for instance. Deadpool is nowhere near as knowledgable when it comes to the martial arts and yet DP has taken down Wolverine twice! Same thing here. Captain may not know as much but he knows how to fight. It's a talent. He will take Batman down eventually but I believe it to be the longest and hardest fight of his life.
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Originally posted by Psyquis52
AJ I think this is our one major difference in opinions. You believe in bat-god and I believe the bat-god will fall to the power of Captain America 7/10 times.Batman is the world's greatest detective and maybe even the greatest martial artist (although I've yet to hear DC be definitive about that). I even think he's a better martial artist than Captain A, but there's a difference between the best at martial arts and the best fighter.
Believe it or not there are people out there who have never had a fighting lesson in their life and they are on par with many great fighters.
When I was 16 this guy who was a 5th degree black belt in taikwon do and a 4th degree in hapkido (I doubt I pronounced either of these right) was picking on my little brother. He was about two years older than me and bigger. I took him down in three moves. I didn't know any martial arts at the time and he did get to swing first.Now granted that has no grounds here between Batman and Captain America because Captain is not younger (I don't think) and Batman is not picking on his little brother. I merely used that illustration to prove a point that there are natural fighters and martial artists and there are some people with more of a knack for fighting. That knack can more than make up for any lack in knowledge.
Take Deadpool vs Wolverine for instance. Deadpool is nowhere near as knowledgable when it comes to the martial arts and yet DP has taken down Wolverine twice! Same thing here. Captain may not know as much but he knows how to fight. It's a talent. He will take Batman down eventually but I believe it to be the longest and hardest fight of his life.
Dude, if this guy was as good of a fighter as you say he was, then he was a dumbass to be taken down by you in three moves. If your a master of TWO arts, that doesn't happen. The guy was probably lying to you when he told you this. Anyways, Batman on the other hand IS NOT a dumbass. Besides, you can't just assume that Captain America is a better fighter based off of your life's past events. It doesn't work that way. I agree with you that Captain America would win 7/10, but it would be because of his superior reflexes, agility, strength, and speed. It wouldn't be because he's a better fighter.
Originally posted by A.JPeople have done that before. Unfortunately for the Batside of this debate, that's how a prideful guy like Batman yields. The writer of the book stated that was Batman noting that Cap was more skilled.
just has a look on the web when captain a and batman faced off bast said it is conceivable and i looked it up and the word meansconceivable
2 conceivable, IMAGINAL, POSSIBLE
possible to conceive or imagine; "that is one possible answer"just putting it out there to show bats didint say he would win its possible he could, proberly done before but ahwell
Originally posted by diabloman
no bat toys and no shield on this thread dude. if you can read look at the begining
I know. I've been posting on this thread a lot longer than you have buddy. 😉 I realize this is without gadgets or the shield mister. I even stated that Captain America would win without the shield or gadgets. I was simply saying that if they had their weaponry back, Batman would win.
Originally posted by batdude123
I know. I've been posting on this thread a lot longer than you have buddy. 😉 I realize this is without gadgets or the shield mister. I even stated that Captain America would win without the shield or gadgets. I was simply saying that if they had their weaponry back, Batman would win.
True 😉
Originally posted by batdude123wow youve posted on this thread longer than meclapping
I know. I've been posting on this thread a lot longer than you have buddy. 😉 I realize this is without gadgets or the shield mister. I even stated that Captain America would win without the shield or gadgets. I was simply saying that if they had their weaponry back, Batman would win.