Superman vs. Count Nefaria

Started by Sir Whirlysplat6 pages
Originally posted by unknowable
According to Avengers #164-166, as strong as WonderMan.

No he wasn't even after the boost Wonderman knocked Powerman out 😂

Supes would beat the shit of of that dracula superman clone hybrid.

Originally posted by unknowable
jeesh, your ferocious...

By the way, is this current or pre?

And I think you know Jun, you don't have to move at superhuman speed to fight superman.

First thats Current. Pre-Crisis Superman could basically do anything he wanted. lol. Rather then him lifting the moon, try having him lift like 5 planets and tow them through space. lol. And speed wise, Pre-Crisis was as fast as he wanted to be pretty well. I'd argue that basically no one in comics could beat Pre-Crisis Superman. Simply because of his absurdity. He used to just make up new powers on the spot. So say he's fighting Silver Surfer (whom would pwn current superman) Pre-Crisis Supes would use an anti-power cosmic beam from his hands or something and beat him...lol (dumb I know, but thats what would happen) and for the record I HATE pre-Crisis Superman. He was basically God. But whatever, hes gone now.

And second. Yes, if people wrote Superman up to his full potential (which they currently dont, generally underusing his speed blitzing capabilities) then you WOULD need to move at super human speeds to fight Superman. Otherwise, how are you going to hit him? He could hit you a few thousand times before you even had any idea what was going on. But no one writes Superman to this potential. Even though by all speed accounts he would easily be capable of doing it.

Forget Count Nefaria the last time I heard he technically got killed by Iron Man when a bunch of Rocks fell on him and Superman would take down Iron Man and use his suit as a trophy for his fortess of solitude.

Forget what I said because I am saying this I think Superman already smacked him down in JLA/Avengers last issue when they were going after Krona and Count Nefaria at the time I thought was some Kingdom Come Superman but just ended up being a clone and Superman beat his ass.

A bunch of Rocks killing Nefaria? 😆 😆 😆

anyways what's strength these days when He-Man throws 500+ billion ton mountains around. lol

Originally posted by Ex11B
A bunch of Rocks killing Nefaria? 😆 😆 😆

Dude didn't it happen?

ionic people can't be killed. only dispersed, and nefaria is the worst of them all in which he asplodes like an imperiex probe x100.

that being said, Supes is my boy.......i raised him in a farm and fed him corn all day long till he developed superpowers 😛 . Of course he takes this or at least gets a tossup.

Originally posted by Fanboy
Dude didn't it happen?

Nonsense, it wasn't that simple.
Don't fall for that Fanboy

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
ionic people can't be killed. only dispersed, and nefaria is the worst of them all in which he asplodes like an imperiex probe x100.

that being said, Supes is my boy.......i raised him in a farm and fed him corn all day long till he developed superpowers 😛 . Of course he takes this or at least gets a tossup.

Funny anime..

Nefaria defeated all the Avengers together and them some.

Originally posted by unknowable
Nonsense, it wasn't that simple.
Don't fall for that Fanboy

He was KO'ed in the Iron Man Annual 99 when he 'ran out' of ion energy while trying to lift a 'heavy' rock ..... The same size rock gets thrown at superboy and Superman, and they barely flinch ! 🙂

Current Superman is slightly above Count Nefaria, i belive he more Wonder Woman strength ! 🙂

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
He was KO'ed in the Iron Man Annual 99 when he 'ran out' of ion energy while trying to lift a 'heavy' rock ..... The same size rock gets thrown at superboy and Superman, and they barely flinch ! 🙂

Current Superman is slightly above Count Nefaria, i belive he more Wonder Woman strength ! 🙂

What!, what an underestimation..

Nefaria lifted an 18,000+ ton submarine and flinged it, beyond that, took mighty Thor's hammer at full swing and literally didn't flinch.

Your right he was out of ion energy which he must continue to feed on, the only reason he was stoped. But while ionized he was unstoppable, which is when he lifted that Sub out of submerged water, which means like I posted before, it weighed even more due to "displacement"(submerged objects fluxuating weight during emergence). that said,

In this fight they both have their power, and red suns, kryptonite and unionized Nefarias are cut slack.

let them dual without weaknesses, raw power. yea..

Cause that was an earlier appearance of a wuss version of him. The current and new one took on an entire roster of avengers, thor, wonderman and ironman included

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Cause that was an earlier appearance of a wuss version of him. The current and new one took on an entire roster of avengers, thor, wonderman and ironman included

wow...

Nefaria rules...

Originally posted by unknowable
wow...

Nefaria rules...

Except Supes would own him 🙂

so everyone says.....

Originally posted by Ex11B
so everyone says.....

Yup!

Originally posted by unknowable
What!, what an underestimation..

Nefaria lifted an 18,000+ ton submarine and flinged it, beyond that, took mighty Thor's hammer at full swing and literally didn't flinch.

Your right he was out of ion energy which he must continue to feed on, the only reason he was stoped. But while ionized he was unstoppable, which is when he lifted that Sub out of submerged water, which means like I posted before, it weighed even more due to "displacement"(submerged objects fluxuating weight during emergence). that said,

In this fight they both have their power, and red suns, kryptonite and unionized Nefarias are cut slack.

let them dual without weaknesses, raw power. yea..

Superman can lift submarines with his little pinky .... Nefaria cant even brake out of the raft without help ! 🙂