-=- Liberals Are In Lead! -=-

Started by Bardock426 pages
Originally posted by Ushgarak
The Liberals had a minority government since the last election already. The Canadian system allows it. They'll just have to be choosy about what gets on the book.

Yeah but minority governments need to be accepted, no? I mean if there are 50 Left wing liberals 100 Moderate Liberals and 50 more right wing liberals and then there are 150 Conservatives, the conservatives would have the biggest party but teh 200 others might decide that they work together....well that's how it works here anyways.

All I can say is that minortity Government has been shown to work in Canada. Coalition has been rare.

It's not possible to run with a hung parliament in the UK but it happens in Canada. It's valid, and the Covservatives will govern.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
All I can say is that minortity Government has been shown to work in Canada. Coalition has been rare.

It's not possible to run with a hung parliament in the UK but it happens in Canada. It's valid, and the Covservatives will govern.

But is it also valid when there is a majority coalition?

Who in the heck would try and rule with a minority coalition?

Like I said, coalition is very rare in Canada- it's not needed. It has happened once in its entire history; this will be the ninth minority Government.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Who in the heck would try and rule with a minority coalition?

Like I said, coalition is very rare in Canada- it's not needed.

Well obviously that would be nonsense....before we continue that talk can someone tell me where PQ in teh political spectrum is at?

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That always seems hard to tell. other than being more or less seperatist, they are left of the Conservatives- but certainly no great friends of the Liberals.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
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That always seems hard to tell. other than being more or less seperatist, they are left of the Conservatives- but certainly no great friends of the Liberals.


Alright, thanks....anyways, all I am saying is that just because minority Governments are usual in Canada it doesn't mean that it needs to be that way. And might it not be hard for tjhe conservatives to find support when they are that far off?

Hard, yes, but everyone is predicting the doom of this Givernment and I am really not so sure. I don't think they are going to stand for three elections within five years, and so I think the Conservatives are here to stay for a little while. They've recovered incredibly in a decade, and I think they'll hold.

well the liberals are not going to do anything as they will pick a new leader. This will be the biggest threat to the conservatives. Liberals usally rally around a new leader.

Majority GoVt are not to hard t get. If the liberals pick a strong leader and if the conservatives do something unpopular the liberals could win easily. Ontario is very volatile and its a province known to go liberal easily. IN the 90d's liberals won over 100 seats in Ontario in 1993, 1997 and 2000.

Originally posted by manny321
Majority GoVt are not to hard t get. If the liberals pick a strong leader and if the conservatives do something unpopular the liberals could win easily. Ontario is very volatile and its a province known to go liberal easily. IN the 90d's liberals won over 100 seats in Ontario in 1993, 1997 and 2000.

wtf...how often do you vote

If its majority its about every 3-4 years.

If its minority its almost any time. We have had three elections since 2000. One in 2000 that lead to a liberal majority. Then in Feb 2004 the big scandal broke and there was an election in june 2004. The liberals won a minority. Then in jan this month we had an election because the govt was voted out in a vote of no confidence in Nov 2005.

Our govt is not the big stable powerhouse like the US president, but if a PM wins a majority he is almost a dictator.

That was part of my point, though. They are not going to keep having elections. The Conservatives have a good chance of making this stick.

I disagree. There will more then likely be another federal election in two years or so.

And last I heard the Liberals did win the popular vote, though not by a huge margin. It was around 40%- Liberals and 35%- Conservatives, give or take.

The Liberals still "own" Toronto and a good deal of central Ontario. The Conservatives are going to have to work hard to convince the major city(s) that they are indeed capable of governing. If they cannot do that then the GTA- Greater Toronto Area will shift fully in support of the Liberals. Manny already stated it. the GTA is notorious for shifting to Liberal on a whim. And if the Liberals can win over the whole of the GTA (which they will if the Tories screw up) Then all they need to do is concentrate their efforts on Quebec to win as many seats there as they can muster. (Which they did not do this Election) If they can do this then the Liberals will be back in power in the next 2-3 years.

But it all really depends on what Mr. Harper and his Conservatives do in office.

I rather think you heard wrong. Popular vote share from recorded results is 36.3% Conservative, 30.2% Liberal.

Huh, Seems your right Ush. Last I heard on CBC (right after the election) was that the Liberals still had more of the popular vote. Seems they jumped the gun a little.

I find it very interesting that the Tories won more of the popular vote across Canada. Very interesting indeed. I have not had time to go over the results in detail myself since the election.

This is a good topic for discussion.

Ahh now that I'm looking at the results it was 39%- Lib and 35%- Cons. In Ontario only. CBC failed to mention it was just Ontario's numbers when they were talking about the % vote. Typical.

Yes the Conservative party won the popular vote
with 36%,

((The_Anomaly)) your results are votes in ontario.

Its going to be wierd feeling for Toronto. They were the center of the govt since 1993 and now they don't even have one person in the tory camp. I doubt Toronto will any time in the near future go conservative. Both Brian mulroney and Mike Harris have ruined Harper's chance. The only threat there is the NDP. Also the liberals have huge support in the cities of Brampton and mississuga and the cities right above Toronto. Those liberals Mps won by huge margins. I literally live in there Liberal heartland in Brampton. The MP is Gurbax Malhi an south asian man and has been going here from since 1993. For harper to get a majority he has to win this area and it looks impossibile. Malhi has won by landslides each time and won by his largest margin yet.

Also if Ontraio is not the center of the govt its goin Liberal.

Yes I know. Thats why I said they are "Ontario only"...lol

And yes. The Conservatives will never break that barrier. I was born in Brampton, my whole family lives there. (With the exception of my immediate family) And to say its a "Liberal Stronghold" is putting it lightly.