Originally posted by Bardock42
Why? I mean no one does actually know. And this Planet seems pretty fine to me. Why do you think it would be ****ed?
Seems fine to me too. That's because we're alive. What if every religion is wrong because we don't know this god's rules and everyone on the planet ends up burning for eternity? We'd be ****ed.
Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
Seems fine to me too. That's because we're alive. What if every religion is wrong because we don't know this god's rules and everyone on the planet ends up burning for eternity? We'd be ****ed.
Well, yeah..but this planet wouldn't. It*S just a possibility. The thing is I believe you gave sa straight answer for something there isn't a straight answer. He has to decide for hiself and we can jsut give him our personal opinions.
Originally posted by Bardock42
But that's not a "funny"...it is a clear possibility...why should that be a joke? You didn't offend me at all..it may very well be that way.
I don't believe in a heaven after life. I believe in reincarnation. That means that he is walking among us right now. Ether you or I could be him.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, yeah..but this planet wouldn't. It*S just a possibility. The thing is I believe you gave sa straight answer for something there isn't a straight answer. He has to decide for hiself and we can jsut give him our personal opinions.
You know, I see your point, but I just don't agree. I don't see the reason to make things so complicated.
If you really want to have sex, then have sex, make sure you use a condom so you don't get anyone pregnant or get an STD. If you regret it, repent. All is forgiven in the Christian religion.
Originally posted by ArachnoidfreakFor repentance to work, you must try to never do it again and truly be sorry..real sorry.
You know, I see your point, but I just don't agree. I don't see the reason to make things so complicated.If you really want to have sex, then have sex, make sure you use a condom so you don't get anyone pregnant or get an STD. If you regret it, repent. All is forgiven in the Christian religion.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don't believe in a heaven after life. I believe in reincarnation. That means that he is walking among us right now. Ether you or I could be him.
What were you trying to say with this then:
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
He's right. Works will not get you into heaven, only by the grace of god.
Anyways, I agree...that is also a possibility...
Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
You know, I see your point, but I just don't agree. I don't see the reason to make things so complicated.If you really want to have sex, then have sex, make sure you use a condom so you don't get anyone pregnant or get an STD. If you regret it, repent. All is forgiven in the Christian religion.
But not all is forgiven in any other religion.
SO I basically agree with you from my point of view. But don't state it as if it were a fact. Cause I am pretty sure you don't know it is a fact at all.
Originally posted by Dawson
But if he's looking for what the Christian religions have to say about it, then fornication is a true sin as it is morally evil. It's not as severe as adultry, but it is a sin in the eyes of Christian religions.
Originally posted by Dawson
Just because sins are forgiven doesn't mean that you go **** up your life and then expect to just make it all go away.And those of us who are Catholic (a section of Christianity, btw) believe that what we are taught by the Church is what God has to say about it, and that He does exist.
Originally posted by Bardock42SO I basically agree with you from my point of view. But don't state it as if it were a fact. Cause I am pretty sure you don't know it is a fact at all.
If I don't know it as a fact, then what I say has no grounds at all and I don't have a basis to believe in anything, because noone can prove what they believe is fact. Just like every religion states what they -believe- is fact.
You are correct is saying that there is no way of knowing who is right in whatever religion, that's precisely why I don't have a religion. Who knows who is right? As far as I'm concerned, as far as my beliefs go, I'm right, religions can poke themselves in the butt.
The only thing to do is just what I said. If he really wants to have sex, just go ahead and do it. If he regrets it and it feels wrong, repent. If he doesnt want to do it, then he doesnt do it. Simple.
Originally posted by Dawson
Just because sins are forgiven doesn't mean that you go **** up your life and then expect to just make it all go away.And those of us who are Catholic (a section of Christianity, btw) believe that what we are taught by the Church is what God has to say about it, and that He does exist.
Unfortunately the Catholic Church has a track record for being the most corrupt church in history, Christian or otherwise.
Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
If I don't know it as a fact, then what I say has no grounds at all and I don't have a basis to believe in anything, because noone can prove what they believe is fact. Just like every religion states what they -believe- is fact.You are correct is saying that there is no way of knowing who is right in whatever religion, that's precisely why I don't have a religion. Who knows who is right? As far as I'm concerned, as far as my beliefs go, I'm right, religions can poke themselves in the butt.
The only thing to do is just what I said. If he really wants to have sex, just go ahead and do it. If he regrets it and it feels wrong, repent. If he doesnt want to do it, then he doesnt do it. Simple.
Well then I guess this is clear now. I jsut wanted you to understand why a Straight answer is not necessarily the best in this case.
lookin morally, its NOT a sin, u n ur partner get pleasure, u dont hurt any1, u lessen ur chances of raping sum1 due to frustration etc. the only wrong thing i see with this is that people generally do it with people they have no feelins for instead of a real gf/bf who have every intention of stayin together, this kinda has a bad affect on the loving/romantic/soul aspect of it, but its not wrong in any way, as long as u dont end up transmitting an std or gettin sum1 pregnant, cause thatd be wrong to the person/child. now ADULTERY however is a moral sin infront of me, ur cheating on sum1, hurtin ur wife/kids/family n that sucks.
I don't believe sex before marriage is a sin. You don't have to take everything in the Bible literally.
Some people never get married. Some people marry for the first time when they are in their late thirties, or forties. If they saved themselves, they'd be virgins at that age. If marriage is for procreation, they would be too old to have children, so what would be the point of them getting married in the first place?
Fornication is only a sin if you believe it to be a sin, and I get the sense that you don't believe it to be so.
Sex is love. You are free to have sex whenever you like, God can't stop you.
Besides, the whole idea of no sex before marriage is very old fashioned.
Originally posted by Xirius
Im seventeen, and Im Catholic.
Ive always pretty much taken it for granted that Id wait until I was married to have sex.......Now Im not so sure.
Is it really a sin to have sex outside of marriage?
You're Catholic and you're not sure if having sex outside of marriage is a sin? Wow. It's Catholic tradition to wait until marriage to have sex, and even then, you're supposd to only have sex to have children. Have fun with that.