Hercules vs. Tiger Shark

when he was first created. he was basically given everything Namor had, except flight. but,instead of that, TS was like a class 95 sabertooth.

Tiger shark as in the Wolverine villain?

Wow, this is an eye-opener! I only know him from appearing in Wolverine way back when (with the likes of Roughhouse) and I wasn't too impressed then.

I know better now.

Yeah, they ruined him. They turned him into the jobber that would get kicked around for whatever character was newly popular.

In the beginning, he was SERIOUS.

He boasted about fighting monsters the size of aircraft carriers at the bottom of the ocean.

Look what I found online:

http://www.truveo.com/Marvel-Comics-Tiger-Shark/id/1620214004

One of my favorite Wolverine issues is when Tiger shark was trying to drown his ass.

Hercules ftw.

Incredible Hulk 160

Not really much of a fight between the two.

Looked like Tiger Shark got the best of him to me. And, Hulk throwing him in the river and then running away doesn't prove anything.

Still, I miss that incarnation of the Hulk. That's when it was fun to read his books. He really was a "Good Guy" back then.

Hulk was trying to get out of the water rather than fighting Tiger Shark. There are no doubts that Tiger Shark is much faster than Hulk in water, but if Hulk was actually trying to fight back like he does vs Namor, it would have been a bit different.

In the second series of scans, Hulk finally decided to fight back and Tiger Shark tried to run away back in the water. Too bad Hulk grabbed him.

From all that, i would say Tiger Shark held his own in water ONLY when Hulk wasnt fighting back.

Also, i dont ever remember him being in the 95 cl. When was this? When he was first created(from Namor dna), he still wasnt 95 cl, cause Namor himself wasnt even 95 cl. AT THE TIME. TS was never at the lvl of strength.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Hulk was trying to get out of the water rather than fighting Tiger Shark. There are no doubts that Tiger Shark is much faster than Hulk in water, but if Hulk was actually trying to fight back like he does vs Namor, it would have been a bit different.

In the second series of scans, Hulk finally decided to fight back and Tiger Shark tried to run away back in the water. Too bad Hulk grabbed him.

From all that, i would say Tiger Shark held his own in water ONLY when Hulk wasnt fighting back.

Also, i dont ever remember him being in the 95 cl. When was this? When he was first created(from Namor dna), he still wasnt 95 cl, cause Namor himself wasnt even 95 cl. AT THE TIME. TS was never at the lvl of strength.

On top of that, he was easily as strong as Namor back then, and had proved it again and again.

Next, it's so funny that you describe TS beating on the Hulk while they are in the water, as a questionable loss because Hulk was "trying to get out of the water".

And, you also count the part where TS was trying to get back into the water as a win for Hulk.

Your opinions don't mean anything here.

Panels showed the Hulk get slapped around in the water, no matter why. And then, after tossing TS into the water, Hulk immediately jumps away.

There is no Hulk Superiority anywhere in that whole conflict.

Hulk took the offensive once and the fight was over. That supposedly class 95 TS wasnt even hurting the Hulk and that was underwater.

Hercules wins again.

Originally posted by tkitna
Hulk took the offensive once and the fight was over. That supposedly class 95 TS wasnt even hurting the Hulk and that was underwater.

Hercules wins again.

Come On. That was good.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Dude, I don't respect the opinions of anybody that has an "Unspecified Gender"! 😆

Come On. That was good.

I have really never noticed that. I will fix that and thanks for the reminder.

Originally posted by Horrificus
I am glad you said all that you did. Because, you prove another point that I try to make on here. There are lots of people that talk like they know what they are talking about, without actually having any idea.
Tiger Shark was listed back then in the Marvel Universe character guide with those characteristics. Class 95. And, if I am wrong, it would be Class 90 instead of 95.

On top of that, he was easily as strong as Namor back then, and had proved it again and again.

Next, it's so funny that you describe TS beating on the Hulk while they are in the water, as a questionable loss because Hulk was "trying to get out of the water".

And, you also count the part where TS was trying to get back into the water as a win for Hulk.

Your opinions don't mean anything here.

Panels showed the Hulk get slapped around in the water, no matter why. And then, after tossing TS into the water, Hulk immediately jumps away.

There is no Hulk Superiority anywhere in that whole conflict.

Yes show your knowledge of those 100% correct handbooks,the place where all comic book knowledge comes from.

Hulk couldnt breathe in water at that time,Captain America would have given him trouble.

If anything it shows Hulk's damage soak.Not being able to breathe while getting hit continuosly by a class "95" Tiger Shark.

What year did Hulk and Tiger Shark fight in? I can check the handbook to see what Marvel classed him as during that time.

EDIT:
The handbook that came out in 1983 says he can lift/press 70 tons

The handbook that came out in 1991 says he is superhuman class 75

Originally posted by King_Mungi
What year did Hulk and Tiger Shark fight in? I can check the handbook to see what class he was in that time.

Juggernaut wasnt a class 100 in the handbooks at that time. 😐

Originally posted by Horrificus
I am glad you said all that you did. Because, you prove another point that I try to make on here. There are lots of people that talk like they know what they are talking about, without actually having any idea.

Your opinions don't mean anything here.

EDIT: The handbook that came out in 1983 says he can lift/press 70 tons

May you have all the pleasures in the world Mungi.

Just to recap what some, not all of the handbooks say about his power as I'm to arsed to check them all.

Handbook [1983]- Lift/press 70 tons

Handbook [1986]- Lift/press 40 tons in water, and slightly less on land

Handbook [1991]- Superhuman class 75

I have books from the 70's with Tiger Shark in them and I agree that he was a tough customer. I'd rate him slightly behind Namor and I also rate Namor slightly behind Hercules.

Its an easy decision for me.