Hercules vs. Tiger Shark

Started by Horrificus3 pages

Originally posted by tkitna
I have really never noticed that. I will fix that and thanks for the reminder.
I was just foolin around.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Just to recap what some, not all of the handbooks say about his power as I'm to arsed to check them all.

Handbook [1983]- Lift/press 70 tons

Handbook [1986]- Lift/press 40 tons in water, and slightly less on land

Handbook [1991]- Superhuman class 75

He was from before then.
The bio for TS is that he started out exactly as strong as Namor, but then started weakening, and over the years, has been trying to amp himself back up again.

First Appearance: Sub-Mariner I#5 (September, 1968)

Originally posted by Horrificus
I am glad you said all that you did. Because, you prove another point that I try to make on here. There are lots of people that talk like they know what they are talking about, without actually having any idea.
Tiger Shark was listed back then in the Marvel Universe character guide with those characteristics. Class 95. And, if I am wrong, it would be Class 90 instead of 95.

On top of that, he was easily as strong as Namor back then, and had proved it again and again.

Next, it's so funny that you describe TS beating on the Hulk while they are in the water, as a questionable loss because Hulk was "trying to get out of the water".

And, you also count the part where TS was trying to get back into the water as a win for Hulk.

Your opinions don't mean anything here.

Panels showed the Hulk get slapped around in the water, no matter why. And then, after tossing TS into the water, Hulk immediately jumps away.

There is no Hulk Superiority anywhere in that whole conflict.

Thank for being happy by what i said, but that doesnt help your argument. True there are some on forums who appear to know what they talk about, and there are some who actually do.

Your firt mistake is following handbooks. They are known to be faulty at times. Has Tiger Shark ever shown to be in the 90-95 cl? Any feats that back that up?

You mention he was as strong as Namor back then, but even Namor himself wasnt in the 90-95 class.

Also, i never mentioned Tiger Shark beating on the Hulk. I said he was able to hold his own, only because Hulk was not fighting back. I never stated that Hulk won once they got out of water. If you can, show me where i said that. I stated that when Hulk decided to finally fight back, TS tried to flee back in the water. It doesnt look good for Tiger Shark because it appears HE'S the one who was trying to follow Hulk and initiate the fight in the first place.

Yea, panels show Hulk getting slapped around in water when hes not trying to fight at all. I guess you think thats impressive. Sorry, but i dont. 😬

I never mentioned anything about anyone being superior, but i did say that IF Hulk actually tried to fight back, things wouldnt have looked good for TS.

Originally posted by Horrificus
He was from before then.
The bio for TS is that he started out exactly as strong as Namor, but then started weakening, and over the years, has been trying to amp himself back up again.

First Appearance: Sub-Mariner I#5 (September, 1968)

What handbook came out in the 1960-1970's? Not sure where you got that then, as for all I know they didn't have handbooks at that time. I could be wrong, just never heard of them.

Originally posted by guy222

mmm

First, T'Challa's armbar on Surfer. Now Frank chokes out Tiger Shark

Originally posted by guy222
First, T'Challa's armbar on Surfer. Now Frank chokes out Tiger Shark

Marvel can sometimes be it's own worst enemy..... 🙁

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Just to recap what some, not all of the handbooks say about his power as I'm to arsed to check them all.

Handbook [1983]- Lift/press 70 tons

Handbook [1986]- Lift/press 40 tons in water, and slightly less on land

Handbook [1991]- Superhuman class 75

There was that listed him at 80 tons and the 2007 one listed him at 75 tons while wet. So Class 75 seems about right.

He is definitely not 95 now.
But, about the time that Namor was beating on the Hulk, Namor was listed as class 95 or 90, and so was TS. And, it was explained that this was because he was just as strong as Namor.

No big deal. If I can find it, I will throw a scan up there. Otherwise, it doesn't really matter. The rest of the time, TS has had strength levels that are all over the place.
Terrible.

Well, I just found the 1st volume of OHOTMU, and found that TS is listed as class 70.

For now, I have to admit that I am wrong. 😠
It's the work of the Devil I tell you!

Hehe. Anyway, that's that.

herc

tiger shark gets beat up and what not.

he fought namor weakened most of the time.and namor has made very short work of him before.

Originally posted by tkitna
Hasnt it been shown that Hercules was even more powerful than Namor underwater?
actually.......the exact opposite was shown.

that one time when the avengers all attacked namor underwater.