Zoom vs. JLA/Avengers/Fantastic Four

Zoom is often portrayed with ENORMOUS CIS/PIS. For this fight, Zoom is completely bloodlusted without ANY PIS or CIS whatsoever. He is willing to kill. The superheroes have NO prep whatsoever and except for the JLA, have absolutely no clue on who they are facing. The battle takes place in a featureless environment.

Lineup:

Superman
Captain America
Iron Man (Normal)
Wonder Woman
Hulk
Thor
Mr. Fantastic
Invisible Woman
Human Torch
The Thing
Martian Manhunter
Aquaman
Batman
Spider-Man
Jack of Hearts

I dont get it, how can he be touched if he goes through time itself??

Originally posted by Blair Wind
I dont get it, how can he be touched if he goes through time itself??

Suspension of disbelief. His powers are difficult to understand. Imagine a man moving at faster than lightspeeds in a time-frozen world. That's unbelievably "fast." Silver Surfer, the Runner, and the Flash don't hold a candle to him.

So he is Flash Prime? 😛

Seriosly then NOONE can beat him....or at least should be able to, if he can move that fast. Is there any weakness to him that will slow him down?

A plot-device called a time fold. Basically a f***ed up time-frozen area that "shorts out" Zoom and puts him into a coma.

I would like to see him against the Runner

He should be able to clear the list. Biggest reason I hate speedsters is there existance is so riddled with PIS/CIS to make reasons for them to lose.

Originally posted by Draco69
Suspension of disbelief. His powers are difficult to understand. Imagine a man moving at faster than lightspeeds in a time-frozen world. That's unbelievably "fast." Silver Surfer, the Runner, and the Flash don't hold a candle to him.

When Flash borrowed the speed of the other speedsters to fight Zoom werent they going so fast even Superman looked like he was standing still?

Zoom gets destroyed. Superman, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter could do it by themselves.

If you're going to assume its Zoom with no PIS or CIS, then I'll assume the same for those 3.

Im not sure about that Wally. With no PIS/CIS, i dont think Supes, WW or MM would know what happened. Zoom is able to go from 0 to lightspeed instantly. I dont think anyone there is able to do that. Mr. Fantastic however would be a b**ch to beat. I think Zoom has a very good chance of doing some serious damage.

Originally posted by Wally West
Zoom gets destroyed. Superman, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter could do it by themselves.

If you're going to assume its Zoom with no PIS or CIS, then I'll assume the same for those 3.

^ I agree.

Plus she did state that he hits harder than Superman. He just moves to fast for anyone to react.

Forget them, Quicksilver should do it.
He has now some bizzare time traveling powers.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Im not sure about that Wally. With no PIS/CIS, i dont think Supes, WW or MM would know what happened. Zoom is able to go from 0 to lightspeed instantly. I dont think anyone there is able to do that. Mr. Fantastic however would be a b**ch to beat. I think Zoom has a very good chance of doing some serious damage.

A blind Wonder Woman managed to smack him in the face and catch him with her lasso, and you can't just cry "PIS!!11!" anytime something negative happens to Zoom. He'll always get hit or caught and its just silly to insist it is always PIS.

Looking at that line up, how does he deal with Martian Manhunter? From the damage he did to Wonder Woman I don't see him being able to put down J'onn before he turns intangible and starts messing with his mind. Someone may insist he can hit MM with "1000 IMPs in a second!", because yeah, he always does that. Each time he hit Wonder Woman with an IMP he had to wait for her to land before hitting her again! I doubt he can get through Sue's shields, he wouldn't be able to snatch Mjolnir from Thor, he couldn't escape Wonder Woman's lasso, he could never do enough damage to put down Superman, etc..

Hes really good and could put down most of the human-level characters, but taking down the whole list, no way, hes punching above his weight. You could team him up with Flash and I still don't think they'd beat that whole list.

Originally posted by Wally West
Yes Zoom is very dangerous but to put him up against that line up is getting carried away. I didn't even notice Thor was in there, he could take Zoom too.

A blind Wonder Woman managed to smack him in the face and catch him with her lasso, and you can't just cry "PIS!!11!" anytime something negative happens to Zoom. He'll always get hit or caught and its just silly to insist it is always PIS.

Looking at that line up, how does he deal with Martian Manhunter? From the damage he did to Wonder Woman I don't see him being able to put down J'onn before he turns intangible and starts messing with his mind. Someone may insist he can hit MM with "1000 IMPs in a second!", because yeah, he always does that. Each time he hit Wonder Woman with an IMP he had to wait for her to land before hitting her again! I doubt he can get through Sue's shields, he wouldn't be able to snatch Mjolnir from Thor, he couldn't escape Wonder Woman's lasso, he could never do enough damage to put down Superman, etc..

Hes really good and could put down most of the human-level characters, but taking down the whole list, no way, hes punching above his weight. You could team him up with Flash and I still don't think they'd beat that whole list.

Originally posted by Juntai
Nah, he's not enough for the list, that list could take on just about anyone and give a decent show, Zoom however is an awesome and dangerous opponent. Vibrate his hand into people's chest and stop their heart and shit.. kinda scary honestly.

ZOOM's done for...

How would that group fare against THANOS...?

quiksilver isn't in this fight. And his new powers are unknown.

In any event, this is the JLA vs. zoom. The avengers and fantastic four don't matter at all, with the exception of thor.

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Flash was amped for that second one.Was zoom? If hes so fast even Superman is standing still to him he has a chance.

Originally posted by Wally West
Yes Zoom is very dangerous but to put him up against that line up is getting carried away. I didn't even notice Thor was in there, he could take Zoom too.

A blind Wonder Woman managed to smack him in the face and catch him with her lasso, and you can't just cry "PIS!!11!" anytime something negative happens to Zoom. He'll always get hit or caught and its just silly to insist it is always PIS.

Looking at that line up, how does he deal with Martian Manhunter? From the damage he did to Wonder Woman I don't see him being able to put down J'onn before he turns intangible and starts messing with his mind. Someone may insist he can hit MM with "1000 IMPs in a second!", because yeah, he always does that. Each time he hit Wonder Woman with an IMP he had to wait for her to land before hitting her again! I doubt he can get through Sue's shields, he wouldn't be able to snatch Mjolnir from Thor, he couldn't escape Wonder Woman's lasso, he could never do enough damage to put down Superman, etc..

Hes really good and could put down most of the human-level characters, but taking down the whole list, no way, hes punching above his weight. You could team him up with Flash and I still don't think they'd beat that whole list.

Did you not read my "NO PIS/CIS" rule? Your arguement is based on the fact that Zoom IS on PIS/CIS