JESUS DYIN FOR HUMANITY, GOD LOVING YOU, all pure CRAP

Started by debbiejo22 pages

Is Paul possessed by Jesus?Jumpy

Originally posted by Alliance
So no one goes to heaven ever?

It would appear so wouldn't it? God's standard is perfection, and we fall short every time; and without perfection, we are not allowed into heaven.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Is Paul possessed by Jesus?Jumpy

Actually, "Do you not know that you are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in you?" 1 Corinthians 3:16

Originally posted by ska57
It would appear so wouldn't it? God's standard is perfection, and we fall short every time; and without perfection, we are not allowed into heaven.

Then...whats the point of religion.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Is Paul possessed by Jesus?Jumpy

"I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me." Galatians 2:20

Originally posted by Alliance
Then...whats the point of religion.

Point is...there is no point. We will always mess it up.

That's why there is another way...

which is?

Originally posted by Alliance
which is?

Heard of the cross of Christ before?

I don't usually follow everyone of the incredible numebr of Christian cults, so no.

Originally posted by Alliance
I don't usually follow everyone of the incredible numebr of Christian cults, so no.

That's allright.

God gave humanity "the Law", 609 seperate laws and rules to follow, and if you failed to keep one of them, you were cursed to go burn in hell for all eternity; because 608 of 609 is not perfection, which is God.

...and we all broke the law...

Jesus didn't come to destroy the 609 laws sooooooooo....

He said so.

Originally posted by ska57
That's allright.

God gave humanity "the Law", 609 seperate laws and rules to follow, and if you failed to keep one of them, you were cursed to go burn in hell for all eternity; because 608 of 609 is not perfection, which is God.

...and we all broke the law...

Sweet Conflicting Claim Batman!

So you say God gave us "609 Laws" (debatable to the edge of eternity, and many of them unsuitable in any kind of modern world) and if we fail to keep even one of them we burn? But most Christians agree it is impossible to keep all the laws. In fact that is the whole point of the uselessly complex thing - we are incapable of followering them, and are ergo doomed without Jesus.

And you say 609 is perfection - like God. So technically if we could stick to the 609 laws we would be like God? Would we be able to unless plagues of flying boils?

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
But most Christians agree it is impossible to keep all the laws. In fact that is the whole point of the uselessly complex thing - we are incapable of followering them, and are ergo doomed without Jesus.

Exactly.

It's said best in Romans 3:20, "Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin."

The Law shows us that we are sinners, but Christ came and lived a perfect life, fulfilling ALL the laws in the Old Testament.

As the Law says, that without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness, Christ shed His blood, perfect blameless blood, and died in our place. Read the rest of Romans 3 if you want to go deeper.

Obviously, all you have heard this before, and I'm also aware that many/most Christians are self-righteous judges who are nothing but boastful high-and-mighty religious puritans.

Now, I apologize if you think I'm forcing my beliefs on you; but the reason why I'm sharing is because I care about you, about all of you; and with what I believe, this is how I show it - by spreading the name of Jesus, and if you don't care, just ignore it.

The Bible is there, I believe in it's inherent truth, and I understand not all do, but I must apologize on behalf of all Christians giving the God of the Bible a bad name, and I must confess, that I have been too hard on others in the past.

Trust me, you're not forcing your belifs. Not by what this forum is used to.

Where is this list of laws...is it published?

You can find them in the Old Testament books of: Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. Called the "Law Books", I can hardly stand reading them, it can get really...weird at times.

There's actually something that I find really funny in the Law Books, if you read the last part of Deuteronomy 25, it says that if two men are fighting and the wife of one comes to his rescue by grapping the other man's 'private parts' that he is to cut off her hand, "...show her no pity."

Yeah....😕. I take it you don't shave then?

I am giving this gotee thing a try...

Originally posted by ska57
There's actually something that I find really funny in the Law Books, if you read the last part of Deuteronomy 25, it says that if two men are fighting and the wife of one comes to his rescue by grapping the other man's 'private parts' that he is to cut off her hand, "...show her no pity."
Yeah I've read that too.........

Crazy, huh?