Why do people complain then do this
Why do people say there is no god because of no solid proof but believe the evolution theory like they were there when the "big bang happened" and saw it for themselves. Well jesus was in the history books(not just the bible) and no they couldn't find his bones because he took it with him. As for him being the son of God is another story and another thread.
Originally posted by ShakyamunisonA fairy tail god ? Well people thought the earth was flat because it made sense.
Many people have a poor understanding of evolution. So, if you understood how evolution works, you would ask, why would someone believe in a fairy tail god when evolution makes so much more sense?
Originally posted by Cyber Ninja
Why do people say there is no god because of no solid proof but believe the evolution theory like they were there when the "big bang happened" and saw it for themselves. Well jesus was in the history books(not just the bible) and no they couldn't find his bones because he took it with him. As for him being the son of God is another story and another thread.
Actually, your point is valid.
Much like religious people take the word of their religious leader to be true, not being able to check whether its there or not, people take scientist word for it as well without being able to check.
If a well known scientist tells you there are so many billion stars in our Galaxy alone - you believe them, without actually being able to check.
The sad truth is that many people are not familiar with many aspects of science, so if a certain person they deam is of status, tells them something scientifically related, they will believe it, without actualky understaniding it.
Its a bit far fetched to claim that all Athiests are science experts - because they are not.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Actually, your point is valid.Much like religious people take the word of their religious leader to be true, not being able to check whether its there or not, people take scientist word for it as well without being able to check.
If a well known scientist tells you there are so many billion stars in our Galaxy alone - you believe them, without actually being able to check.
The sad truth is that many people are not familiar with many aspects of science, so if a certain person they deam is of status, tells them something scientifically related, they will believe it, without actualky understaniding it.
Its a bit far fetched to claim that all Athiests are science experts - because they are not.
Hey! your ruining a perfectly good argument here. 😛 jk 😆
Originally posted by Boris
Evidence.
Evidence?
They can tell you that it is evidence, just like a priest or a mullah can tell you there is evidence for God and Allah, the point is you cannot check it - you naturally assume they are right because they are people of status - scientist.
Average person cannot check how many stars there is in galaxy - they believe what they are told by those who claim they can do so.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Evidence?They can tell you that it is evidence, just like a priest or a mullah can tell you there is evidence for God and Allah, the point is you cannot check it - you naturally assume they are right because they are people of status - scientist.
Average person cannot check how many stars there is in galaxy - they believe what they are told by those who claim they can do so.
But if you want to double check the information, you can get the reports and do so. People do it all the time, that is why there are scientific populations. If you want to check out how the bible was put together there will come a point were you will need to look in the Vatican archives and they will not let you in.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
But if you want to double check the information, you can get the reports and do so. People do it all the time, that is why there are scientific populations. If you want to check out how the bible was put together there will come a point were you will need to look in the Vatican archives and they will not let you in.
Aaah, but if you want to check Bible is true, you go to religious people. You cannot claim in order to check bible you go to a scientist, just like you cannot claim in order to check science you go to a religious leader.
We know how the rain is made - because scientists have given us a more plausable explanation. The fact is, you cannot check how the rain is really made - you can make similar experiments, but you cannot check the actual event yourself.
There are reports, true, but who wrote these reports? Scientists did. The same ones, I just said you believe what they say, because they are people of status.
If you can check everything you are told, without reports or statistics, then there would be a different argument alltogether ✅
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Aaah, but if you want to check Bible is true, you go to religious people. You cannot claim in order to check bible you go to a scientist, just like you cannot claim in order to check science you go to a religious leader.We know how the rain is made - because scientists have given us a more plausable explanation. The fact is, you cannot check how the rain is really made - you can make similar experiments, but you cannot check the actual event yourself.
There are reports, true, but who wrote these reports? Scientists did. The same ones, I just said you believe what they say, because they are people of status.
If you can check everything you are told, without reports or statistics, then there would be a different argument alltogether ✅
I partly agree, however, in the scientific world, composition is used to validate information. If you publish something everyone is going to check your findings, cause if they can debunk you, it gives them clout, which helps them with their research funding.
The fundamental point of what you are saying is how do we know anything. We must have faith that the system that we now have in place will work toward better ideas. However, the true nature of really can not be understood by humans, and never will be.
Re: Why do people complain then do this
Originally posted by Cyber Ninja
Why do people say there is no god because of no solid proof but believe the evolution theory like they were there when the "big bang happened" and saw it for themselves. Well jesus was in the history books(not just the bible) and no they couldn't find his bones because he took it with him. As for him being the son of God is another story and another thread.
I had read a book from a religious man who claimed the evolution theory never contradicts the catholic view of creation.
Peter Kreeft writes in his book Making Choices: Finding Black and White in a World of Grays says:
Another example would be the contradiction between religious faith and modern science. For instance, doesn't Genesis say we were created by God in his image, while modern biology tells us we evolved over a long period of time from apes? The two most popular "solutions" to this problem are #2 and #3 in our list. Believers in evolution often simply scorn or sneer at religious believers, and believers in creation often ignore the scientific data rather than explaining it. But a better solution (C in our diagram) would be a larger, more complete one [soultion]. What the Bible tells us is that the soul was created by God, breathed into us by God. That is "the image of God"-the soul. What the theory of evolution (and is only a theory) supposes is that the human body gradually evolved from higher apes, as they evolved from more primitive apes, which in turn evolved from more primitive life forms, etc. Now perhaps the theory is simply wrong scientifically; but what if it is right, it does not contradict the bible account because it says nothing at all about the soul. How could science see souls? Are there fossils of souls embedded in rocks? God could have gradually prepared the human body by evolution and then created the soul and breathed it into the body. That would be a more complete, two part explanation, including both body and soul. C includes both A and B.
(excerpt from Part Three: Five-Twelve Little Boxes Morality Wont Fit Into pg 56 pr.2)
Re: Re: Why do people complain then do this
Originally posted by AOR
I had read a book from a religious man who claimed the evolution theory never contradicts the catholic view of creation.Peter Kreeft writes in his book Making Choices: Finding Black and White in a World of Grays says:
Another example would be the contradiction between religious faith and modern science. For instance, doesn't Genesis say we were created by God in his image, while modern biology tells us we evolved over a long period of time from apes? The two most popular "solutions" to this problem are #2 and #3 in our list. Believers in evolution often simply scorn or sneer at religious believers, and believers in creation often ignore the scientific data rather than explaining it. But a better solution (C in our diagram) would be a larger, more complete one [soultion]. What the Bible tells us is that the soul was created by God, breathed into us by God. That is "the image of God"-the soul. What the theory of evolution (and is only a theory) supposes is that the human body gradually evolved from higher apes, as they evolved from more primitive apes, which in turn evolved from more primitive life forms, etc. Now perhaps the theory is simply wrong scientifically; but what if it is right, it does not contradict the bible account because it says nothing at all about the soul. How could science see souls? Are there fossils of souls embedded in rocks? God could have gradually prepared the human body by evolution and then created the soul and breathed it into the body. That would be a more complete, two part explanation, including both body and soul. C includes both A and B.
(excerpt from Part Three: Five-Twelve Little Boxes Morality Wont Fit Into pg 56 pr.2)
That is interesting and probably more true than false. However, we did not evolve from apes, we are apes.