Why do people complain then do this

Started by Shakyamunison5 pages
Originally posted by stop_sign
your so definately right... so enlighten me if you know yourself what is evolution? why is it right? and why cant ppl prove all of this theory? tell me why i c flaw in evolution?... why do i see the world falling apart before my eyes when according to evolution the world is supposively only getting better?

Have you ever heard the story of the blind men who encountered an elephant?

American poet John Godfrey Saxe (1816-1887) based the following poem on a fable which was told in India many years ago.

It was six men of Indostan
To learning much inclined,
Who went to see the Elephant
(Though all of them were blind),
That each by observation
Might satisfy his mind

The First approached the Elephant,
And happening to fall
Against his broad and sturdy side,
At once began to bawl:
“God bless me! but the Elephant
Is very like a wall!”

The Second, feeling of the tusk,
Cried, “Ho! what have we here
So very round and smooth and sharp?
To me ’tis mighty clear
This wonder of an Elephant
Is very like a spear!”

The Third approached the animal,
And happening to take
The squirming trunk within his hands,
Thus boldly up and spake:
“I see,” quoth he, “the Elephant
Is very like a snake!”

The Fourth reached out an eager hand,
And felt about the knee.
“What most this wondrous beast is like
Is mighty plain,” quoth he;
“ ‘Tis clear enough the Elephant
Is very like a tree!”

The Fifth, who chanced to touch the ear,
Said: “E’en the blindest man
Can tell what this resembles most;
Deny the fact who can
This marvel of an Elephant
Is very like a fan!”

The Sixth no sooner had begun
About the beast to grope,
Than, seizing on the swinging tail
That fell within his scope,
“I see,” quoth he, “the Elephant
Is very like a rope!”

And so these men of Indostan
Disputed loud and long,
Each in his own opinion
Exceeding stiff and strong,
Though each was partly in the right,
And all were in the wrong!

Moral:

So oft in theologic wars,
The disputants, I ween,
Rail on in utter ignorance
Of what each other mean,
And prate about an Elephant
Not one of them has seen!

We do not know, nor can we understand, the truth that alludes us while sitting in our hand.

Originally posted by stop_sign
why do i see the world falling apart before my eyes when according to evolution the world is supposively only getting better?

Well, if God was in charge of the world, why doesn't He make it better? God is making the world a miserable place to be.

Originally posted by Makedde
The website is lame because it is crap. 'I say God exists so therefore he must exist'? Get a life! Show me some real proof, not some rubbish on a webpage.

I'm not saying the website it right... I'm commenting on the fact that of all the people who I've talked to about faith they usualy use 1 of those thoughts to prove to themselves that they are right... You will never be able to prove the bible without the aid of a timemachine...

There has been a group of monks in germany who for the last 600 yr(I think) have been trying to prove that the bible is proof of god and jesus... So far they haven't proved anything...

^I understand what you mean now, I think I misunderstood you before.

Originally posted by stop_sign
why do i see the world falling apart before my eyes when according to evolution the world is supposively only getting better?

Wow. Oh ... wow. I never thought that you knew anything about evolution, but this is just depressing.

Originally posted by Makedde
What a load of rubbish, this webiste proves nothing, except people like yourself are gulible.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That was my impression of the site as well. The logic was based on faulty assumptions that were not mentioned.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The "arguments" for the existence of God presented on the site in question are not supposed to be taken seriously; they are jokes.

what he said ✅

Originally posted by Makedde
The website is lame because it is crap. 'I say God exists so therefore he must exist'? Get a life! Show me some real proof, not some rubbish on a webpage.

How bout you show us some real proof of your religious or "spiritual" beliefs? What you have none? Pity 🙄

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Have you ever heard the story of the blind men who encountered an elephant?

American poet John Godfrey Saxe (1816-1887) based the following poem on a fable which was told in India many years ago.

It was six men of Indostan
To learning much inclined,
Who went to see the Elephant
(Though all of them were blind),
That each by observation
Might satisfy his mind

The First approached the Elephant,
And happening to fall
Against his broad and sturdy side,
At once began to bawl:
“God bless me! but the Elephant
Is very like a wall!”

The Second, feeling of the tusk,
Cried, “Ho! what have we here
So very round and smooth and sharp?
To me ’tis mighty clear
This wonder of an Elephant
Is very like a spear!”

The Third approached the animal,
And happening to take
The squirming trunk within his hands,
Thus boldly up and spake:
“I see,” quoth he, “the Elephant
Is very like a snake!”

The Fourth reached out an eager hand,
And felt about the knee.
“What most this wondrous beast is like
Is mighty plain,” quoth he;
“ ‘Tis clear enough the Elephant
Is very like a tree!”

The Fifth, who chanced to touch the ear,
Said: “E’en the blindest man
Can tell what this resembles most;
Deny the fact who can
This marvel of an Elephant
Is very like a fan!”

The Sixth no sooner had begun
About the beast to grope,
Than, seizing on the swinging tail
That fell within his scope,
“I see,” quoth he, “the Elephant
Is very like a rope!”

And so these men of Indostan
Disputed loud and long,
Each in his own opinion
Exceeding stiff and strong,
Though each was partly in the right,
And all were in the wrong!

Moral:

So oft in theologic wars,
The disputants, I ween,
Rail on in utter ignorance
Of what each other mean,
And prate about an Elephant
Not one of them has seen!

We do not know, nor can we understand, the truth that alludes us while sitting in our hand.

So put them all together 😑

Originally posted by AOR
So put them all together 😑

People have tried to do that. Read "The Power of Myth".

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
People have tried to do that. Read "The Power of Myth".

So I would prupose "To each their own.."

Originally posted by AOR
So I would prupose "To each their own.."

Is that surrender?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Is that surrender?

What?

Originally posted by AOR
What?

When you said to each his own, it sounded like don't try to put the truth together. Did I misunderstand you?

Originally posted by AOR
How bout you show us some real proof of your religious or "spiritual" beliefs? What you have none? Pity 🙄
There has been proof of workings outside our direct understanding. Healing's by many cultures that are not Christian.

Originally posted by AOR
How bout you show us some real proof of your religious or "spiritual" beliefs? What you have none? Pity 🙄

I have my beliefs, I have no proof of the Goddess, just as you have no proof of God.

It's said that what we would call god has both aspects to it. A feminine and a masculine....ie god/goddess.

Everything has a polar opposite....It would explain why we are male and female....just different aspects of the ONE.

Originally posted by Gregory
Wow. Oh ... wow. I never thought that you knew anything about evolution, but this is just depressing.

So you don't see any decay in the world?

Originally posted by Echuu
So you don't see any decay in the world?

Oh, for ****s sake; you people really have no idea what you're talking about, do you? What the hell do you think that species adapting to their environment has to do with the world getting "better?"

Originally posted by Gregory
Oh, for ****s sake; you people really have no idea what you're talking about, do you? What the hell do you think that species adapting to their environment has to do with the world getting "better?"

😂 😂 😂 I think YOU are the one who has no clue what you're talking about. Did I say ANYTHING that had to do with what you just said? No I didn't. I asked you a question and I'm still waiting for an answer.

He(?) asked why the world was getting worse when evolution says it should be getting better, I say he doesn't understand evolution, you say "What, you don't think the world is decaying, huhhuhhuh?" and I pointed out that evolution had nothing to do with whether the world is getting "better" (and therefore, whether the world is decaying is completely irrelevant). Unless you were changing the subject--"forget about evolution, what about the state of the world?"--my response was perfectly relevant.

And no, the world isn't decaying; it's always been like this. Actually, it's getting better in many ways.