Pro-Ana Sites

Originally posted by BackFire
Doubtful that that would be censored. The dangers of anorexia are more immediate than overeating.

Without treatment, up to twenty percent (20%) of people with serious eating disorders die. With treatment, that number falls to two to three percent (2-3%).

Being overweight or obese increases the risk of many diseases and health conditions, including the following:

Hypertension
Dyslipidemia (for example, high total cholesterol or high levels of triglycerides)
Type 2 diabetes
Coronary heart disease
Stroke
Gallbladder disease
Osteoarthritis
Sleep apnea and respiratory problems
Some cancers (endometrial, breast, and colon)

Censorship regarding 'harm' can turn into a minefield once you start.

Originally posted by BackFire

But again, it's probably more about promoting something then just saying "you like it". As in trying to convince others that they should do the same harmful act you are doing.

People do encourage over-eating though; advertisements do it all the time. In fact, they also perpetuate the myth of the desirable skinny body.

Originally posted by Storm
Pro Anorexia (Pro-Ana) is an on line movement made up of websites, chat rooms and message boards that support anorexia.

Unlike websites designed to help remove anorexia tendencies, pro anorexia websites are created to help support anorexia and negative body image. The pro anorexia websites typically contain on line journals, tips and tricks for successful anorexia, pictures of thin women, quotations, and chat rooms or message boards where the women can communicate.

Many of the websites clearly state that they are not about recovery, but regard anorexia as a lifestyle and conscious choice, not an illness or disorder.

Web servers are continuing to remove pro anorexia and pro bulimia sites as they appear.

I was shocked by what I’ ve read and seen on these sites.

I'd say Shut them down. They're not providing any informational material for anorexia. What's next? Pro-suicide sites? This is nothing but false propaganda and as we all know there is a sucker born every minute.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
I'd say Shut them down. They're not providing any informational material for anorexia. What's next? Pro-suicide sites? This is nothing but false propaganda and as we all know there is a sucker born every minute.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom

Without treatment, up to twenty percent (20%) of people with serious eating disorders die. [/B]

Originally posted by Bardock42
I find pro-suicide sites less pointless than pro-anorexic, but I don't think it is good to cut on Freedom of Speech.

Wait a minute....come to think of it...this IS a pro-suicide site. They're supporting unhealthy eating habits. Which could lead to death. No Freedom of speech here....this should be illegal.

Yeah, I didn't say that the dangers were worse, I said that they were more immediate. Someone who starves themself will **** up their body much faster then someone who eats too much. The results will happen much sooner. That's what I meant.

Also, the fact is, the audience who would listen to someone promoting anorexia is much larger then the audience that would sincerely believe the person promoting overeating. At this point in time, there are many young girls, who are incredibly self concious about their bodies, all the magazines that show perfect bodies, gorgeous thin women, it leads them to believe that that's how they must look in order to be attractive. They become desperate to lose weight. These are the people who may stumble upon these promotional websites for anorexia, and fall for their lies because they want to be skinny, and want to believe that this will work for them. Where as hardly anyone WANTS to be fat.

Advertisements don't encourage over-eating. They encourage eating their product, which generally is BAD eating. They don't say "Hey, go eat 6 meals today. Show me a commercial that promotes specifically over eating and I'll retract this statement.

However, I don't disagree with your point, VVD. If one danger is allowed to be censored, then they all should be. Another big attribute is what's socially acceptable. There are lot's of fat people in the world these days. So it's become "okay" to be fat.

I'd say, that if someone who was obese, like morbidly obese, was promoting their lifestyle to others while ignoring the obvious and factual dangers of said lifestyle, then I'd be just as understanding towards a server company if they shut them down as I am towards those companies that shut down anorexia promotional sites.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Wait a minute....come to think of it...this IS a pro-suicide site. They're supporting unhealthy eating habits. Which could lead to death. No Freedom of speech here....this should be illegal.

Well it is not the same...and why should pro-suicide sites be prohibited anyways?

Like your avi by the way, that's from the Dwarves Army Book right?

Originally posted by BackFire
Yeah, I didn't say that the dangers were worse, I said that they were more immediate. Someone who starves themself will **** up their body much faster then someone who eats too much. The results will happen much sooner. That's what I meant.

Indeed, but once you start talking about censoring for causing harm, as I'm sure you are aware, people will start censoring for any old shit.

Originally posted by BackFire

At this point in time, there are many young girls, who are incredibly self concious about their bodies, all the magazines that show perfect bodies, gorgeous thin women, it leads them to believe that that's how they must look in order to be attractive. They become desperate to lose weight. These are the people who may stumble upon these promotional websites for anorexia, and fall for their lies because they want to be skinny, and want to believe that this will work for them. Where as hardly anyone WANTS to be fat.

Nobody wants to be too skinny though, it just becomes that way.

As you said above, the media perpetuates the myth- then we are going to censor the people that suffer from the problem, rather than the causes? Seems a little unfair to me.

Originally posted by BackFire

Advertisements don't encourage over-eating. They encourage eating their product, which generally is BAD eating. They don't say "Hey, go eat 6 meals today. Show me a commercial that promotes specifically over eating and I'll retract this statement.

Well let's not get into the semantics of 'over-eating'. If bad food is advertised, then that's promoting harm.

How far do we go with this?

I think these sites are a bit too influencing for teenage girls. The 100 lb girls are always blabbering about how they always think they're fat, that's all I ever hear.

Originally posted by DanieLs_4_Ever
I think these sites are a bit too influencing for teenage girls. The 100 lb girls are always blabbering about how they always think they're fat, that's all I ever hear.

Are you a teenage girl?

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Are you a teenage girl?

Originally posted by DanieLs_4_Ever
I am. But I do not complain about how I think I am fat. I am a healthy 120 lb 5'7 girl.

Then shall we not patronise teenage girls in general, and worry more about those who will do something stupid because of a blog they read?

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Then shall we not patronise teenage girls in general, and worry more about those who will do something stupid because of a blog they read?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well it is not the same...and why should pro-suicide sites be prohibited anyways?

In many jurisdictions it is a crime to assist others, directly or indirectly. Thus they're breaking the law.

Like your avi by the way, that's from the Dwarves Army Book right?

Thanks Bardock!

Yup! is from the old Dwarves armies book cover. 😄

Originally posted by DanieLs_4_Ever
How am I patronising?

Would you start under-eating because of one of these sites?

Originally posted by DanieLs_4_Ever

I see no problem with coming on here and stating my own opinion on an eating disorder such as anorexia.

Nor I. In fact, that's my whole point, isn't it?

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Would you start under-eating because of one of these sites?

Nor I. In fact, that's my whole point, isn't it?

Originally posted by DanieLs_4_Ever
How am I patronising? I see no problem with coming on here and stating my own opinion on an eating disorder such as anorexia. It's a very serious thing that affects millions of people, generally women and teenage girls.

Why should they be banned? You're acting as though they force whoever views them into anorexia.

As pointed out, you are a teenage girl without anorexia who knows that these sites exist and I dare say you've visited some of them out of curiousity, so you are living proof that if you don't want to be anorexic, you won't be. You saw those sites and didn't come away wanting to be dangerously skinny did you? No.

All it takes is sense to prevent being "influenced" by these anorexia sites and we shouldn't be catering for those with none. Before you or anyone retorts with "Don't be so heartless", think about it. If someone wants to do something dumb, they're dumb. If you think dumb idiots deserve help, welllll guesssss what?

Would you go out of your way to attempt to help someone who willingly walked on an electrified train track? The answer should be no, because it's a dumb action and if you do it then you are dumb and deserve everything you get.

-AC

Originally posted by DanieLs_4_Ever

Well you told me to worry about myself instead of someone elses blog..or something or other.

I actually said 'we', not 'you'.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Why should they be banned? You're acting as though they force whoever views them into anorexia.

As pointed out, you are a teenage girl without anorexia who knows that these sites exist and I dare say you've visited some of them out of curiousity, so you are living proof that if you don't want to be anorexic, you won't be. You saw those sites and didn't come away wanting to be dangerously skinny did you? No.

All it takes is sense to prevent being "influenced" by these anorexia sites and we shouldn't be catering for those with none. Before you or anyone retorts with "Don't be so heartless", think about it. If someone wants to do something dumb, they're dumb. If you think dumb idiots deserve help, welllll guesssss what?

Would you go out of your way to attempt to help someone who willingly walked on an electrified train track? The answer should be no, because it's a dumb action and if you do it then you are dumb and deserve everything you get.

-AC

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
I actually said 'we', not 'you'.

Originally posted by DanieLs_4_Ever
Yeah, I wont deny it, I've viewed some sites on eating disorders. But as far as helping, I mean there ARE people that take up professions and some of them are mainly for Eating Disorder purposes, like counseling, stuff like that. So I guess obviously they want to be the ones to help the girls that have the EDs.

Not the point.

The point is not catering for idiots who will commit idiotic acts for the self-satisfaction of "Oh they need help".

If there's a CD out there saying "Kill your mother", do you ban the CD? No. Why? Because if someone is dumb enough to do it, think about the mentality.

-AC