Originally posted by Makedde
I am not in any way racist, I assure you of that. I just think that if these people are allowed to encourage young girls to starve themselves, and it's free speech, I should have freedom of speech to say whatever I like, as long I cause no one physical harm.
You do, that is the point. As long as you do not cause unwanted direct harm, or breach laws.
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
You do, that is the point. As long as you do not cause unwanted direct harm, or breach laws.
So then, if it is a persons freedom of speech to call a black person a ******, and keep in mind that I am just using this as an example, why then do we get hauled into court? It's a criminal offence to call someone that. That isn't freedom of speech then. 😕
Originally posted by Makedde
So then, if it is a persons freedom of speech to call a black person a ******, and keep in mind that I am just using this as an example, why then do we get hauled into court? It's a criminal offence to call someone that. That isn't freedom of speech then. 😕
If you sign a confidentiality agreement, you are bound by law not to divulge the contents of that agreement.
If you then do so, you cannot claim free speech, because that is silly. Free speech doesn't give you carte blanche to ignore the law, it simply protects speech from becoming illegal per se.
Originally posted by BackFire
Because it factually isn't a good idea. It's dangerous and to encourage it to impressionable young girls who may stumble upon their horseshit website is even more dangerous.
I have to say I argee with backfire with this one.It is dangers if it supports eating disorders.A girl I work with is suffering from it.and she looks horrible like she is skulliton just walking around you can see every bone in her body.Scary!jm 🙁
I believe it is illegal to promote suicide, yes? If I created a suicide website, showing people the best ways to cut and bleed their wrist or the best combination of pills to take with alcohol, I would face criminal charges. Why then should promoting a mental illness that is potentially dangerous not also be illegal... because some people think it's fashionable?
What I think you fail to realise, Rob, is that sites suggesting the best ways to commit suicide will not appeal to anybody who isn't willing to do it, will they?
Some guy or girl with a perfect life won't stumble upon it and think: "Ooh that sounds nice!".
If they're going to do it anyway, why does it matter how they do?
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
What I think you fail to realise, Rob, is that sites suggesting the best ways to commit suicide will not appeal to anybody who isn't willing to do it, will they?Some guy or girl with a perfect life won't stumble upon it and think: "Ooh that sounds nice!".
If they're going to do it anyway, why does it matter how they do?
-AC
Irrelevant... promoting and encouraging people to further indulge in a mental illness they already suffer over and one that is potentially fatal is the issue. Not I 'I was a healthy normal girl; I stumbled upon this site and it made me anorexic', which is silly.
Originally posted by Robtard
I believe it is illegal to promote suicide, yes? If I created a suicide website, showing people the best ways to cut and bleed their wrist or the best combination of pills to take with alcohol, I would face criminal charges. Why then should promoting a mental illness that is potentially dangerous not also be illegal... because some people think it's fashionable?
any more info on this law?
Originally posted by inimalist
any more info on this law?
Well, assisting in a suicide is illegal, as per the case of Dr. Jack Kevorkian and attempting suicide is illegal, as in if you fail, you can be held punishable under the law (I find this idiotic). I also said "yes?" as in asking/promoting the question.
Originally posted by Robtard
Well, assisting in a suicide is illegal, as per the case of Dr. Jack Kevorkian and attempting suicide is illegal, as in if you fail, you can be held punishable under the law. I also said "yes?" as in asking/promoting the question.
oh, ok
I did a real quick Google and found many articles, including those coming from the British Medical Journal, saying this is a problem on the internet today, with no mention of the legality of it. Another one talked about a proposed Australian government crackdown on suicide sites, this was in 2003.
I don't think it is as controlled as you think it is. Child Porn and Security information is the only stuff I've ever heard of being sort of blanket banned from the web...
EDIT: I even think there are very few places where attempted suicide is illegal. They can hold you for clinical observation, but you haven't commited a crime.
Originally posted by Robtard
Irrelevant... promoting and encouraging people to further indulge in a mental illness they already suffer over and one that is potentially fatal is the issue. Not I 'I was a healthy normal girl; I stumbled upon this site and it made me anorexic', which is silly.
I don't think it can be considered encouragement.
It's an idea that basically says; "If you're going to do it, and have decided to, here are some ways.". Not "Do it, go on.".
Is it honestly a saving grace that someone who was going to do it ANYWAY, didn't get the idea off a site?
I doubt that's of any relevance.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I don't think it can be considered encouragement.It's an idea that basically says; "If you're going to do it, and have decided to, here are some ways.". Not "Do it, go on.".
Is it honestly a saving grace that someone who was going to do it ANYWAY, didn't get the idea off a site?
I doubt that's of any relevance.
-AC
If it was a controlled conscious choice, you may have merit; anorexia is a mental disorder, no? These sites glorifying it, only serve to solidify and validate that mental sickness.
"Many of the websites clearly state that they are not about recovery, but regard anorexia as a lifestyle and conscious choice, not an illness or disorder" -I think that can be considered as a form of "encouragement".