As for the age thing comic wise I think bruce is around mid 30's. Cap because he was frozen still look like a man of 25 years old and I believe BP too be about 30-33 from what I have heard. BP is as dangerous as Batman with the tech and the herb has increased him like the SSS for Cap. Given the physical fight BP may edge out batman. Given psychological warfare the bat will win.
Psychologically, they're equal. Both men have the ability to detach themselves from any given situation and DEAL with it. Neither would allow any foe to easily gain footing over them and both have had enough training to lessen anything someone might throw at them. The main advantage that T'Challa has over Batman is The Panther God. The Black Panther has an inborn mystic connection which has allowed him to " psychically " battle foes such as Mephisto -- and win. It really depends on the situation. Personally I don't think either gains too much footing over the other when it comes to overall intelligence or mental durability.
True the only thing that black panther has over batman is the equipment. And with out it, black panther would just be another captain america wanna be.
With that said if they were to fight with out weapons the majority of the wins would go to batman.
And if they were to fight with normal equipment the majority of th wins would go to black panther
And if they were to prepare for their encounter knowing full well what the other can do. Well batman is going to be the one to all most all their encounters.
Psychologically, they're equal. Both men have the ability to detach themselves from any given situation and DEAL with it. Neither would allow any foe to easily gain footing over them and both have had enough training to lessen anything someone might throw at them. The main advantage that T'Challa has over Batman is The Panther God. The Black Panther has an inborn mystic connection which has allowed him to " psychically " battle foes such as Mephisto -- and win. It really depends on the situation. Personally I don't think either gains too much footing over the other when it comes to overall intelligence or me
ntal durability.
I kind of agree because batman went to HELL and came back with all his marbles.
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
True the only thing that black panther has over batman is the equipment. And with out it, black panther would just be another captain america wanna be.With that said if they were to fight with out weapons the majority of the wins would go to batman.
And if they were to fight with normal equipment the majority of th wins would go to black panther
And if they were to prepare for their encounter knowing full well what the other can do. Well batman is going to be the one to all most all their encounters.
I kind of agree because batman went to HELL and came back with all his marbles.
There's no sure way to determine whether Batman's hand to hand skill are superior to Black Panther's until there's an actual cross over. But gadgets aren't the only advantages Black Panther has. T'Challa has cat-like hearing, vision ( see in the dark ), sense of smell, agility, strength, speed, etc. All derived from the heart-shaped herb and the Panther God who is apparently constantly a part of the Panther. Batman cannot match those entirely without some sort of gadgetry on his own part. Black Panther would have the slightest advantage in any fight between them.
Both Black Panther and Batman are masters of " prep " time. Neither men have ever entered a battle without first understanding to some degree their foe. ( ex. Black Panther prep'd for his fight with Hydro-Man. ) I doubt their situation in which neither has their weapons, etc, would call for any prep time.
Originally posted by nathan summers
Psychologically, they're equal. Both men have the ability to detach themselves from any given situation and DEAL with it. Neither would allow any foe to easily gain footing over them and both have had enough training to lessen anything someone might throw at them. The main advantage that T'Challa has over Batman is The Panther God. The Black Panther has an inborn mystic connection which has allowed him to " psychically " battle foes such as Mephisto -- and win. It really depends on the situation. Personally I don't think either gains too much footing over the other when it comes to overall intelligence or mental durability.
Just for shits and giggles... Quentin Tarantino's got nothin.
Originally posted by lifeisaglichWell now that you've downgraded the character, Batman is sure to win 🙄
True the only thing that black panther has over batman is the equipment. And with out it, black panther would just be another captain america wanna be.
Originally posted by lifeisaglichNope. Cap'd beat Batman up and so would BP. BP's a little meaner, so he might hurt Bats a bit more
With that said if they were to fight with out weapons the majority of the wins would go to batman.
Originally posted by lifeisaglichI'm not 100% sure on this, but I'll take your word for it. Anytime YOU say Batman'd lose, he must be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay outclassed.
And if they were to fight with normal equipment the majority of th wins would go to black panther
Originally posted by lifeisaglichI'm not sure about that. It's hard to tell who'd win.
And if they were to prepare for their encounter knowing full well what the other can do. Well batman is going to be the one to all most all their encounters.
Originally posted by lifeisaglichHe probably had the same number he went in with, but he hasn't had all of them since the day his parents were murdered.
I kind of agree because batman went to HELL and came back with all his marbles.
There's no sure way to determine whether Batman's hand to hand skill are superior to Black Panther's until there's an actual cross over. But gadgets aren't the only advantages Black Panther has. T'Challa has cat-like hearing, vision ( see in the dark ), sense of smell, agility, strength, speed, etc. All derived from the heart-shaped herb and the Panther God who is apparently constantly a part of the Panther. Batman cannot match those entirely without some sort of gadgetry on his own part. Black Panther would have the slightest advantage in any fight between them.
Those are all good advantages
But batman's crowl all's him to see in the dark, have cat like hearing, (It does not help his sense of smell) 🙂
Well batman has shown strength and speed just as well. All of this he did with out taking anything that would give these advantages to him.
Except for the Panther God thing which I don't know how it is going to help the black panther in this match they are even and yes with the slightest advantage going to T'challa in the strength department.
Both Black Panther and Batman are masters of " prep " time. Neither men have ever entered a battle without first understanding to some degree their foe. ( ex. Black Panther prep'd for his fight with Hydro-Man. ) I doubt their situation in which neither has their weapons, etc, would call for any prep time.
This thread did not call for prep and I am not saying to call it one.
They both use prep but batman has had a history of winning through prep. And with the toys that he has.....oooh...No I am not talking about batarangs he would surely win.
And I am going to leave it at that.
And yess T'challa also uses prep to win most of his battles I KNOW..🙂
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Those are all good advantages
But batman's crowl all's him to see in the dark, have cat like hearing, (It does not help his sense of smell) 🙂
Yes, this is true. But they have no gadgets, remember? I'm assuming that means ALL of their high-tech gear is stripped and it's just Bruce Wayne versus T'Challa. No night vision cowl or overtly enhanced hearing.
Originally posted by brainchild81
Well now that you've downgraded the character, Batman is sure to win
yess
Originally posted by brainchild81
I'm not 100% sure on this, but I'll take your word for it. Anytime YOU say Batman'd lose, he must be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
outclassed.
It is just their standard gear....and.....batman does not dress to kill you on a dime. Well if you took it to the extreme and disturb them the way no criminal has ever done well T'challa is more likely to snap your neck while batman would just beat you to an inch of your life. Hence the difference in their standard gear.
Originally posted by brainchild81
He probably had the same number he went in with, but he hasn't had all of them since the day his parents were murdered.
That is true.
Originally posted by nathan summers
Yes, this is true. But they have no gadgets, remember? I'm assuming that means ALL of their high-tech gear is stripped and it's just Bruce Wayne versus T'Challa. No night vision cowl or overtly enhanced hearing.
Well I am glad you brought that up, how would seeing in the dark or smelling help him in this type of fight then? hmmmmmmm
There are infinite reasons that it could help in a fight of this sort. Any number of odd situations or occurances could be introduced. What if the lights go out? Bam! Night vision! What if Panther is blinded and can't see for whatever reason. BAM! Super hearing, smelling..etc. Stranger things have happened in comics.
Cap beat Bats?? I'm not too sure about all that only xover I've read with the two of them, Bats took the win. Granted this meeting wasn't canon just like this Bats and BP one wouldn't be if it happened...it was still a defeat on Caps part and it didn't take too much effort.
I believe they are fairly equal in most categories except for BP being a bit ahead in strength. Batman has him outclassed in fighting skills and that puts him over a bit for this fight..
Batman 6/10
Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
Cap beat Bats?? I'm not too sure about all that only xover I've read with the two of them, Bats took the win. Granted this meeting wasn't canon just like this Bats and BP one wouldn't be if it happened...it was still a defeat on Caps part and it didn't take too much effort.I believe they are fairly equal in most categories except for BP being a bit ahead in strength. Batman has him outclassed in fighting skills and that puts him over a bit for this fight..
Batman 6/10
In JLA/Avengers both of them fought for a while with Batman acknowlegding that if they continue Cap could beat him.
Also Panther outclasses Batman in most physical aspects and the only thing Batman has over him is fighting skills, an area where BP is no slouch. Enhanced physical abilities plus enhanced senses ftw