Iori Yagami vs Terry Bogard

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Originally posted by brainchild81
Watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aWPUOjOfPE Kyo's stretched out and Shingo's all f**ked up from Iori's onslaught. His clan made a deal w/Orichi for MORE power. So far I know of 2 fights they had. 1 Draw and the other was in that ending 1-0 for the guy w/the moon on his )

Well not all endings are official. Show me a source where it says that team Kyo won ( implying that ending was cannon), and I'll have no problem believing you. If Iori actually beat Kyo that would be fawking awesome.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Nah. The flame users are above Terry level. They're simply more powerful than he is. His experience wouldn't be enough to take them Well, Iori and Kyo for sure, I'm not 100% sure about K' and Ash, but it's likely they are too. Rock > Terry Watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aWPUOjOfPE Kyo's stretched out and Shingo's all f**ked up from Iori's onslaught. His clan made a deal w/Orichi for MORE power. So far I know of 2 fights they had. 1 Draw and the other was in that ending 1-0 for the guy w/the moon on his jacketThat was the 2nd time they fought. 1st time Kyo just overpowered him. Rugal wanted that Orochi power for a reason. It allows those who have it to f**k people up. But only those born w/it are able to weild it right. If Kyo can take Rugal, Iori can surely do it. And if Terry can manage to defeat Geese, it's a safe bet Iori can. It might not be very popular 'round here 'cause of all the Terry fans here, but Iori'd cook Terry & so would Kyo. Sorry, but it can't be helped 🙂
wait kyo did beat rugal the 1st time.its pretty safe 2 say that rugal is stronger than geese.terry had such a hard time beating geese.i can kinda see your point now,terry probally wont b able to beat rugal,nah terry will find a way.i still cant see terry losing to iori.

Ash didnt even have trouble taking peoples powers.. so if a transvestite such as himself can accomplish that with little force.. it cannot be that hard to best them in combat

also.. in the Another Day series.. Iori isnt that great with his physical hits, as Soire Meira stood toe to toe with him

IMO , energy is energy... terry has energy just like iori

"Nah. The flame users are above Terry level. They're simply more powerful than he is. His experience wouldn't be enough to take them Well, Iori and Kyo for sure, I'm not 100% sure about K' and Ash, but it's likely they are too. Rock > Terry"

In your opinion.

"It might not be very popular 'round here 'cause of all the Terry fans here, but Iori'd cook Terry & so would Kyo. Sorry, but it can't be helped"

Again your opinion.

yeah he forgets to say that alot..

No I don't. I don't have to put that anymore. I typed this a while ago

Originally posted by brainchild81
If I'm stating something as fact I'll put "& that's a fact". Example: Ash Crimson is one of the gayest looking character designs I've ever seen & that's a fact 🙂
Originally posted by Remulous
wait kyo did beat rugal the 1st time.its pretty safe 2 say that rugal is stronger than geese.terry had such a hard time beating geese.i can kinda see your point now,terry probally wont b able to beat rugal,nah terry will find a way.i still cant see terry losing to iori.
Terry'll find a way? You mean call Iori or Kyo right? 😆 I thought only Batman fans posted that phrase. Iori > Kyo and Kyo beat Rugal. Rugal > Terry. So aren't Kyo and Iori each > Terry? The answer is yes. Terry's one of your faves. I can understand why it's hard for you to imagine him losing. Iori would fustigate him though.
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
Ash didnt even have trouble taking peoples powers.. so if a transvestite such as himself can accomplish that with little force.. it cannot be that hard to best them in combat
😆 You're right about one thing. Ash is a transvestite. However, we saw how Ash got the flames in that youtube vid EA posted. You got any secret canon footage or data on Ash beating up on Iori or Kyo? If so, that likely means he’d beat the mess outta Terry I’m afraid. Ash might be honestly more powerful than Terry. I hate his design, but that wouldn’t surprise me much. If they fought I’d root for Terry, but probably bet on Ash.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
also.. in the Another Day series.. Iori isnt that great with his physical hits, as Soire Meira stood toe to toe with him
By getting knocked around and thrown into a car window? Or maybe kicked through a church window? What'd he get like 1 hit in? Iori is actually quite strong and skilled w/out the flames. Notice how he threw Soiree quite far w/just 1 arm. I don't think you're giving Iori enough credit. Maybe you should watch it again.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
IMO , energy is energy... terry has energy just like iori
Obviously not true. Otherwise any ol' energy could defeat Orochi. Terry has energy earned through hard work. Iori was born w/the ability to produce flames from his body. Terry got his energy in a more admirable way for sure, but all signs still point to Iori being more powerful.

Wow again you never cease to amaze me. Most of that post was ignorant. I am sure you have seen the KOF anime where Kyo was getting his ass kicked by Alba right?.

Bottom line is you seem to have a problem with stating Terry fans accepting him to lose and I quote "I can understand why it's hard for you to imagine him losing. Iori would fustigate him though"....again your opinion and you obviously you seem to have some problem with Iori losing to both Terry, Kyo and yes Geese...which I believe they would beat him.

"So aren't Kyo and Iori each > Terry? The answer is yes."

Your opinion.

terry can beat iori and kyo.if they both lost 2 ash and im sure that terry can beat ash.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Iori > Kyo and Kyo beat Rugal. Rugal > Terry. So aren't Kyo and Iori each > Terry? The answer is yes. Terry's one of your faves. I can understand why it's hard for you to imagine him losing. Iori would fustigate him though

Nah Iori is not stronger than Kyo (you have no proof behind it). That's your opinion, and you have yet to answer my question.

I put

Originally posted by brainchild81
Iori > Kyo
. I’ll keep trying to confirm. Might you have anything to disprove it? Sorry I didn't answer your question. What was it?
Originally posted by P-Geyser
Wow again you never cease to amaze me. Most of that post was ignorant.
Let me guess, by "ignorant" you mean an opinion different than yours? You're better than that P-Geyser. Aren't you?
Originally posted by P-Geyser
I am sure you have seen the KOF anime where Kyo was getting his ass kicked by Alba right?.
Haven't seen it in a while. Will watch it again tomorrow or maybe tonight. I seem to remember Alba having the upperhand before Iori stopped it. Care to explain how that would effect Iori or Kyo Vs. Terry? 🙂

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Bottom line is you seem to have a problem with stating Terry fans accepting him to lose and I quote "I can understand why it's hard for you to imagine him losing. Iori would fustigate him though"....again your opinion and you obviously you seem to have some problem with Iori losing to both Terry, Kyo and yes Geese...which I believe they would beat him.
You have seen the vid haven't you? I'm working on finding out wheter it was canon. I've seen nothing saying it wasn't. It offers an explanation as to how Ash got the flames. Do you have anything @all showing any of those 3 being able to whoop Iori? If you do please present it. Otherwise, it's JUST YOUR OPINION. See how tiresome that is? We're here to exchange opinions aren't we? So that "Your opinion" line isn't needed anymore. I've no problem with you guys saying Iori'd lose to anybody. You just don't seem to be in a rush to provide even the slightest bit of proof. Rem's earlier post about "finding a way" to beat Rugal seems to point to a bit of what I said about some Terry fans finding it hard to imagine him losing doesn't it? Please answer. Be honest. Not emotional. You seem to think that me thinking Terry can actually lose to somebody is some kind of insult to you or the character. It's not. I'm not s**tting on anybody and you know it. Fictional characters, people.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Your opinion.
Isn't that line getting old? I thought we covered this already.
Originally posted by Remulous
terry can beat iori and kyo.if they both lost 2 ash and im sure that terry can beat ash.
😆 No you're not. You have anything showing Ash whoopin’ on either of 'em?

Originally posted by brainchild81
I put . I’ll keep trying to confirm. Might you have anything to disprove it? Sorry I didn't answer your question. What was it?

I need no proof. liek I said, SNK never really states" X is more pwerfull than Z" with thier top characters. Im not trying to state that I know for a fact that Terry is more powerfull than Iori, youre the one stating absolutes, so you have the burden of proof.

Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
I need no proof. liek I said, SNK never really states" X is more pwerfull than Z" with thier top characters. Im not trying to state that I know for a fact that Terry is more powerfull than Iori, youre the one stating absolutes, so you have the burden of proof.
I was just asking if you had something. Relax. So far I've got an-in game video that shows how Ash got the flames and since Ash does get Iori's flames, I've no reason to believe it's not canon. How would I go about confirming this? Any sites?

I think he means also on the subject of terry and iori as well as kyo and iori... that as much as people say "x is stronger than z", we have seen no fighting between them to prove such, so that in the end it all boils down to opinions.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
I think he means also on the subject of terry and iori as well as kyo and iori... that as much as people say "x is stronger than z", we have seen no fighting between them to prove such, so that in the end it all boils down to opinions.
perfect 👆

Let me guess, by "ignorant" you mean an opinion different than yours? You're better than that P-Geyser. Aren't you?

I dont really have a problem with someone who has a "different" opinion than mine it's just how some people go about it. For Instance I would never say such things as Terry beats Iori by the skin of his teeth or Terry would put Ryu in a comatose state.

"Haven't seen it in a while. Will watch it again tomorrow or maybe tonight. I seem to remember Alba having the upperhand before Iori stopped it. Care to explain how that would effect Iori or Kyo Vs. Terry?"

Just pointing out that Kyo and Iori are not the fighting gods that alot of people make them out to be. I wonder what would have happened had Alba truly fought Iori.

"Do you have anything @all showing any of those 3 being able to whoop Iori? If you do please present it. Otherwise, it's JUST YOUR OPINION. See how tiresome that is? We're here to exchange opinions aren't we? So that "Your opinion" line isn't needed anymore."

Gee that's funny. As much as it gets tiresome hearing "IT'S YOUR OPINION" it gets tireing of hearing that Kyo and Iori or above Terry or they are more powerful than Terry. I also feel that most of the times you make these to be facts. Could be wrong but that how I see it.

"You just don't seem to be in a rush to provide even the slightest bit of proof."

Okay first thing is I believe I showed you a link to SNK's own website that stated Kyo was not more powerful than Terry but he was created to hold his own against him and Ryohttp://www.kof10th.com/english/character/index.php?num=kyo. So I guess thats not showing anything huh?. As well it says nothing of Iori being more powerful but that he was very popular.

"Rem's earlier post about "finding a way" to beat Rugal seems to point to a bit of what I said about some Terry fans finding it hard to imagine him losing doesn't it? Please answer. Be honest. Not emotional. You seem to think that me thinking Terry can actually lose to somebody is some kind of insult to you or the character."

Okay I believe I have stated before that Terry can WIN and he can ALSO LOSE just like any other fighter so I fail to see where you would imply me getting emotional about that. Also on this profile about Terry http://kof.confusticated.com/frames.html if you scroll down it makes a note that Terry does not seek to always win but learn from the experience. So me finding it hard for Terry to lose is not the case. Though I do get heated beacuse as 2D master pointed out, alot of times you make it seem that Terry is just an average fighter and that he is below many. If that were the case he would not have been a mascot for SNK, had 3 successful animes(even though you hate them)Seven installments of Fatal Fury and whatnot. Not to mention the fact that alot of times you tended to downgrade Terry and I think alot of people would tend to be definsive especially if someone was talking really bad about theit favorite characters....thats all.

"I'm not s**tting on anybody and you know it."

Where have I said in my post that brainchild was sh*tting on somebody?..I stated that some of your post were ignorant and that it was your opinion but not sh*tting on anybody.

"Isn't that line getting old? I thought we covered this already."

Then why did you bother to quote it when you mentioned it in the other sentence?

Agreed with P-geyser

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
I think he means also on the subject of terry and iori as well as kyo and iori... that as much as people say "x is stronger than z", we have seen no fighting between them to prove such, so that in the end it all boils down to opinions.
I see what you mean, but I'm still going to find out for sure if Iori beating Kyo and Shingo is canon(If it can be found out). You see the Iori/Soiree fight again?
Originally posted by P-Geyser
I dont really have a problem with someone who has a "different" opinion than mine it's just how some people go about it. For Instance I would never say such things as Terry beats Iori by the skin of his teeth or Terry would put Ryu in a comatose state.

That's simply because you don't feel that way. If you did and you posted such things, I'd have no problem w/it. I'd ask for the reasoning behind it, but that's about it. Ryu & Iori are not my family members. Also, that comatose stuff was years ago wasn't it?🙂 I thought we'd made peace since then
Originally posted by P-Geyser
Just pointing out that Kyo and Iori are not the fighting gods that alot of people make them out to be.

Actually, I really don't think anyone on here makes them out to be gods. It's honestly exactly the opposite. Here, If you say Terry loses to anybody people act like you shot their puppy in the face, but if you say that Terry can beat Kyo & Shingo @ the same time, it's "all good in da hood" 🙂 Cats here try to make it seem like Kyo and Iori ain't sh*t but the flames when in fact, they are top level fighters
Originally posted by P-Geyser
I wonder what would have happened had Alba truly fought Iori.

Did you mean to say Soiree?
Originally posted by P-Geyser
Gee that's funny. As much as it gets tiresome hearing "IT'S YOUR OPINION" it gets tireing of hearing that Kyo and Iori or above Terry or they are more powerful than Terry. I also feel that most of the times you make these to be facts. Could be wrong but that how I see it.

You see it wrong. I've already said 2x that if I don't say "& that's a fact", not to regard it as such.
Originally posted by P-Geyser
Okay first thing is I believe I showed you a link to SNK's own website that stated Kyo was not more powerful than Terry but he was created to hold his own against him and Ryohttp://www.kof10th.com/english/character/index.php?num=kyo. So I guess thats not showing anything huh?. As well it says nothing of Iori being more powerful but that he was very popular.

It wasn't showing anything unless you're also saying all these characters are exactly the same as they were when they were created over 10 years ago. Kyo's skill and power level is exactly the same? Terry's too? Nobody in SNK ever improves?
Originally posted by P-Geyser
Okay I believe I have stated before that Terry can WIN and he can ALSO LOSE just like any other fighter so I fail to see where you would imply me getting emotional about that. Also on this profile about Terry http://kof.confusticated.com/frames.html if you scroll down it makes a note that Terry does not seek to always win but learn from the experience. So me finding it hard for Terry to lose is not the case. Though I do get heated beacuse as 2D master pointed out, alot of times you make it seem that Terry is just an average fighter and that he is below many.

Only the toppest(another brainchild copyright just like the term "gaymore"😉 of the top. Show me a post where I say Sean or Shingo whoops Terry's @$$ and you'll have something. I think Terry'd beat the s**t out of anybody below Rock Howard level. It sometimes seem like you guys wouldn't be happy unless I said Terry is not below ANY. You didn't really answer the question though. Doesn't this
Originally posted by Remulous
wait kyo did beat rugal the 1st time.its pretty safe 2 say that rugal is stronger than geese.terry had such a hard time beating geese.i can kinda see your point now,terry probally wont b able to beat rugal,nah terry will find a way.
suggest that it’s hard for @ least one Terry fan to imagine him losing? Seriously though, where would it stop? Terry Vs God Rugal………..Terry would find a way. Terry Vs Shin Akuma………..Terry would find a way. Terry Vs God Rugal & Shin Akuma @ the same time………..Terry would find a way 😆
Originally posted by P-Geyser
If that were the case he would not have been a mascot for SNK, had 3 successful animes(even though you hate them)

A while back somebody was saying how the other Fatal Fury characters don’t seem to be worth much. I’m thinking those lousy movies have a lot to do w/that. (The Mars one was the absolute worst) Notice how Terry’s shown to be lightyears ahead of the others? Terry beats a god’s @$$ while Kim has a whole mess of trouble from some nameless minion that’s not even in the games. Also, why does Terry fall in love w/some skinny b**ch w/humongous eyes that looks like she’s about 12 years old? Makes him look like a pedophile. @ least in the other movie he was in love with a woman. They were just “Terry and only Terry beats everything down” movies. That “You’re my angel” song was horrible too.
Originally posted by P-Geyser
Seven installments of Fatal Fury and whatnot. Not to mention the fact that alot of times you tended to downgrade Terry and I think alot of people would tend to be definsive especially if someone was talking really bad about theit favorite characters....thats all.

I’d really like to see 2 examples of me recently talking really bad about Terry.
Originally posted by P-Geyser
Then why did you bother to quote it when you mentioned it in the other sentence?
Trying to hammer it home. We went over this a good deal of posts back.

Y is Terry Always Winning A POLL? May Be They know The Truth & The Truth will set you Free...

"That's simply because you don't feel that way. If you did and you posted such things, I'd have no problem w/it. I'd ask for the reasoning behind it, but that's about it. Ryu & Iori are not my family members. Also, that comatose stuff was years ago wasn't it? I thought we'd made peace since then"

Even if I did I still would not post it. I am sure you would have no problem with it but there are others who might. I was just using the comatose thing as an example.

"Actually, I really don't think anyone on here makes them out to be gods. It's honestly exactly the opposite. Here, If you say Terry loses to anybody people act like you shot their puppy in the face, but if you say that Terry can beat Kyo & Shingo @ the same time, it's "all good in da hood" Cats here try to make it seem like Kyo and Iori ain't sh*t but the flames when in fact, they are top level fighters"

That's B.S. I even agreed that Kyo has MARTIAL ARTS knowledge but he progressed far beacuse of his ability to weild Crimson Flames. As well I also believed in The Terry vs Ryu debates I said that it could go either way. If Terry were to lose I would not go apeshit and no my dog has not been shot in the face. While this is just one forum many "cats" outside and on other forums think that Iori can walk on water and snap his fingers and make wine....I dont see people people thinking that with Terry.

"Did you mean to say Soiree?"

No I said I wondered what would have happened had Alba fought Iori.

"You see it wrong. I've already said 2x that if I don't say "& that's a fact", not to regard it as such."

Then the crap about Terry below Kyo,Iori,Rock should not be reguarded as such.

"It wasn't showing anything unless you're also saying all these characters are exactly the same as they were when they were created over 10 years ago. Kyo's skill and power level is exactly the same? Terry's too? Nobody in SNK ever improves?"

Okay I was showing that Kyo was meant to be the main character of the KOF series, but not better or powerful than Terry and Ryo but to stand up to them...I also believe this now and yes the characters do improve in SNK. I will admit Kyo came along way but that still dosent mean he is better than or tops Terry.

"Only the toppest(another brainchild copyright just like the term "gaymore"😉 of the top. Show me a post where I say Sean or Shingo whoops Terry's @$$ and you'll have something. I think Terry'd beat the s**t out of anybody below Rock Howard level. It sometimes seem like you guys wouldn't be happy unless I said Terry is not below ANY. You didn't really answer the question though."

Only the toppest right? Terry is up there with Ryu,Ken,Kyo,Iori and what is this question you keep on asking? refresh my memory.

"A while back somebody was saying how the other Fatal Fury characters don’t seem to be worth much. I’m thinking those lousy movies have a lot to do w/that. (The Mars one was the absolute worst) Notice how Terry’s shown to be lightyears ahead of the others? Terry beats a god’s @$$ while Kim has a whole mess of trouble from some nameless minion that’s not even in the games. Also, why does Terry fall in love w/some skinny b**ch w/humongous eyes that looks like she’s about 12 years old? Makes him look like a pedophile. @ least in the other movie he was in love with a woman. They were just “Terry and only Terry beats everything down” movies. That “You’re my angel” song was horrible too."

Heh that whole comment was no suprise. Your the only person here who seems to hate the Fatal Fury animes. Did Terry breeze past Andy and Kim in the second Anime?...um no. He actually LOST to Krauser the first time so being lightyears ahead is pure B.S. I also recall agreeing how Terry needed Sulia's help in defeating Laoucorn. If Terry was "lightyears" ahead of anyone than what about the SF anime where Mr. Ryu was way lightyears ahead of everyone. Oh by the way Chin(the guy that Kim fought ) is in the Fatal Fury games..FF2, FFS, RB, RBS and RB2

"Also, why does Terry fall in love w/some skinny b**ch w/humongous eyes that looks like she’s about 12 years old?"

Correct me if I am wrong, but dont alot of gals in anime have those "humongous" eyes?.

"Makes him look like a pedophile."

Very Classic post

"I’d really like to see 2 examples of me recently talking really bad about Terry."

Okay maybe you did not look at the post clearly....I stated "alot of times you tended" instead of "you always"

"Trying to hammer it home. We went over this a good deal of post back"

Then there was no need to "hammer it home"

no 1 will truly know who'll win,neither character has fought against each other with a clear winner.only time will tell.i simply put my money on terry b cause hes shown feats of strength proving his abilities.what has iori or kyo done that even makes them look like a match 2 terry,beating rugal doesnt count,cuase i b leave terry coodve done the same.