Obi-Wan vs Darth Bandon.

Started by Hello Friend3 pages

Obi-Wan vs Darth Bandon.

Obi from ROTS. Who takes it?

Setting is Mustafar.

I'd say Obi-Wan. Bandon was at best a mediocre Sith. Sure, he was Malak's apprentice, but he was still under going his training, and obviously hadn't gotten too far into it.

Although granted, it was Revan, arguably one of the most powerful Jedi/Sith of all time, however this was before he even realized who he was or coming near his original strength.

However, Obi-Wan is one of the best Masters of his era, bested probably only by Mace and Yoda. I think Obi has much more experience and training, in addition to the skill to back it up, and would waste Bandon before he could even make one of his stupid taunts.

I'd say Obi-Wan. Bandon was at best a mediocre Sith. Sure, he was Malak's apprentice, but he was still under going his training, and obviously hadn't gotten too far into it.

A mediocre Sith? He was undefeated and he was chosen to be Malak's apprentice out of thousands of Sith. Obviously hadn't got far into his training? That's unsubstantiated hyperbole. He had [possibly] 20+ years of Jedi training coupled with 2+ years of Sith training.

Although granted, it was Revan, arguably one of the most powerful Jedi/Sith of all time, however this was before he even realized who he was or coming near his original strength.

And? Your party members could have killed Bandon.

However, Obi-Wan is one of the best Masters of his era, bested probably only by Mace and Yoda. I think Obi has much more experience and training, in addition to the skill to back it up, and would waste Bandon before he could even make one of his stupid taunts.

Experience? Bandon fought in a war with legions of Jedi and Sith fighting. I'd say that fighting actual people in war beats sparring with your apprentice.

Obi-Wan's cleverness grants him this victory IMO.

Cleverness? Substantiate...

Well, Bandon did seem like a cocky bastard, with his puny insults and all. Obi-Wan uses that to his advantage. Remember Anakin? Bandon is young. I wouldn't put it past him to pull a stunt like that.

And also, Obi-Wan is strong with the Lucky side of the Force. Remember Maul?

Originally posted by Hello Friend
Well, Bandon did seem like a cocky bastard, with his puny insults and all. Obi-Wan uses that to his advantage. Remember Anakin? Bandon is young. I wouldn't put it past him to pull a stunt like that.

And also, Obi-Wan is strong with the Lucky side of the Force. Remember Maul?

Lucky side of the force? WTF? Just shut up, are you arguing that Obi-Wan will win because he's lucky!?

Cocky bastard? Seemed like, yes. But we have no indication of his IQ or his intelligence or much else, to be honest.

And also, Obi-Wan is strong with the Lucky side of the Force. Remember Maul?

Yep, the lucky side of the force sure helped him against Dooku.

The luck part wasn't a serious add-on >_<

Originally posted by Darth Traya
A mediocre Sith? He was undefeated and he was chosen to be Malak's apprentice out of thousands of Sith. Obviously hadn't got far into his training? That's unsubstantiated hyperbole. He had [possibly] 20+ years of Jedi training coupled with 2+ years of Sith training.

Being chosen to be someone's apprentice doesn't mean he was second in the Empire bby power, just that he was most suited to the job. Anakin took Dooku's place, yet Dooku could have pwned Anakin.

Random Jedi 'X' is undefeated also. Unless we know that he actually fought someone of importance, it's just another notch on his belt, feat wars.

Originally posted by Darth Traya
And? Your party members could have killed Bandon.

Could have, but how many of your party members could take ROTS Obi-wan?

Originally posted by Darth Traya
Experience? Bandon fought in a war with legions of Jedi and Sith fighting. I'd say that fighting actual people in war beats sparring with your apprentice.

Obi-wan's fought other lightsaber user's in real combat 10 or so times. According to one of the item descriptions in KOTOR, that makes him a masterblade to the Sith even in KOTOR times.

Even Exar Kun probably didn't fight many more then 10 people in actual combat with a lightsaber. How many did Bandon kill personally?

I like how you're the first to point and say "feat wars", Glentract, when it's because of you I invented the term in the first place.

Originally posted by Darth Traya
A mediocre Sith? He was undefeated and he was chosen to be Malak's apprentice out of thousands of Sith. Obviously hadn't got far into his training? That's unsubstantiated hyperbole. He had [possibly] 20+ years of Jedi training coupled with 2+ years of Sith training.

since when did he have jedi training?

Since he was a jedi. Read his profile on the KOTOR website.

ok.

It says nothing about "20 years".

That is probably assuming that he was trained from birth. However, since KotOR jedi were not all trained from birth, this is possibly not true. However, he would still have had several years of training so it is safe to assume he has at least 2 (likely more) years of jedi training

Actually, I am not sure, but did he fight in the Mandalorian Wars?
If he did then he had several years of training before that (you would not take a raw trainee to war) and that would also add to his fighting experience

I'm assuming he did. If he barely joined in the Mandalorian Wars, I doubt he would have risen so far in the New Sith Empire.

Safe assumption

So then using that, we can assume that he had at least 2+ years of jedi training before the wars, then however long the wars were, then the several years at the sith academy while Revan and Malak were searching, then the years under Malak.

So really, the guy did have a fair bit of experience

But he still got pwned.