It's not "Muslims," it's not "Islam." It is fanatics who happen to be Muslim, people with obsolete mindsets who are using Islam as an excuse to kill and destroy. IMO, we must maintain this distinction, otherwise we let our own anger get the best of us.
Homo barbaros. Stop them, kill them if necessary. And always, pity them.
Originally posted by Mindship
It's not "Muslims," it's not "Islam." It is fanatics who happen to be Muslim, people with obsolete mindsets who are using Islam as an excuse to kill and destroy. IMO, we must maintain this distinction, otherwise we let our own anger get the best of us.Homo barbaros. Stop them, kill them if necessary. And always, pity them.
I once had a thread that was: If God were to tell you to, would you fly an airplane into a building?
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=354880&highlight=fly+airplane
You should see how many Christians would do it.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I once had a thread that was: If God were to tell you to, would you fly an airplane into a building?http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=354880&highlight=fly+airplane
You should see how many Christians would do it.
And you should see how many non-religious people would for a random ideal. What is your point?
My point is that ideology of Islam is making people do certain things, and the idology of Christians do not happen to preach it. Nazism didnt happen to preach burning yourself to death for sake of Hitler, but if it did, im sure a lot of people would do it.
To force oneself to believe something without understanding it is political, not spiritual or intelectual. Thus islam, like most Abrahamic religions is an idology rather than spiritual guidence.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
And you should see how many non-religious people would for a random ideal. What is your point?My point is that ideology of Islam is making people do certain things, and the idology of Christians do not happen to preach it. Nazism didnt happen to preach burning yourself to death for sake of Hitler, but if it did, im sure a lot of people would do it.
To force oneself to believe something without understanding it is political, not spiritual or intelectual. Thus islam, like most Abrahamic religions is an idology rather than spiritual guidence.
My point is that fanatics are everywhere, not just in Islam.
Originally posted by mahamI thought most of those cartoons were dumb but some people might like them. They weree mmore to make a point about terrorism and I don't think they were supposed to represent all muslims. It reminds me of the saying if the shoe fits wear it. If you aren't a terrorist the ones that showed him as a terrorist ddon't apply to you.
as if fightin wars endlessly n makin cartoons of Prophets is goin to b of any benefit to u?
Originally posted by mahamI don't think it is compatable wth our laws. If islam was practised here like it is in the middle east it would be illegal. They make religions illegal maybe we should do the same to islam. I know the koran says there is no compulsion in religion but it is being debated whether that has been abragated or not so some islamic scholors say that was for another time. Besides it isn't true there's a lot of compulsion in islam.
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Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I think I have mentioned that before as well.I, at least cannot recall last time a Jew/Hindu/Buddhist or even Christian blew up an Islamic country's embassy and threatened Muslims and their religion, nor can I recall last time I have seen a Hindu, buddhist or a Jew blow up a Church to prove a point.
Can you recall how many time muslims blew up Hindu temples, Buddhist Temples, Synagogues, and Churches because they didn't agree with that religion?
Here, here.
Originally posted by mahamI thought the koran said there is no compulsion in religion. http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20060324/cm_csm/yperkins
well no1 asked u to follow our ways ur just exaggeratin itilliteracy is a weakness of a society not religion
If the guys life wasn't at stake what he said would be funny. If you change your religion we will kill you but we really are tolerant. Something isn't right.
[QUOTEwell no1 asked u to follow our ways ur just exaggerating it
illiteracy is a weakness of a society not religion][/QUOTE] man, you dont understand the essence of it even if I credit your ways....................your respond do show that you dont credit other ways of beliefs though....................so your cry for respect about your religion is a laugh and a half and to me all you get is a pork chop and I would place it places your imam thought an impossible place to place things
Originally posted by mahamIt just seems like a lot of muslims who immigrate don't want to obey our laws. That's what the cartoons were all about they were more of a political statement then any thing else and it wasn't just about freedom of speech. http://www.torontosun.com/News/World/2006/03/24/1503392-sun.html
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Divorce religion from politics in Muslim countries, and the system is interrupted.
That was the case with the infamous Danish cartoons depicting Mohammed.
To many, the cartoons were political comment, not religious.
To Muslims they were insulting, to militant Muslims they were a call to riot, pillage, burn and kill.
Afghanistan declaring Islam as the official religion collides with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights that its constitution also endorses
Your religion will have to change in order to be compatable with our laws and if it won't change muslims should not be allowed to immigrate. You can call it racissm, islamophobia or what ever you want. I am not a racist or an islamophobe I just don't believe in catering to muslims or any body.
Originally posted by WeskerI hope they don't but he has been sentenced and they are going to supposed to kill him in a couple of hours unnless the international community has pressured them into changing their mind. http://www.torontosun.com/News/World/2006/03/24/1503392-sun.html They have changed sentences before because of international pressure so they might do it again. Other sharia death sentences have been reversed, such as the woman journalist in Nigeria who was sentenced to death for suggesting the Prophet Mohammed might enjoy a beauty contest scheduled for Nigeria.
Yeah, the hypocrisy and intolerance of most mainstream Islam is hilarious.I for one hope they don't kill this guy.
Another woman sentenced to death by stoning for adultery was saved by international condemnation of the sentence.
What the Afghan case reveals is the impossibility of separating politics from religion in Muslim countries. I read where one afgan muslim says if he that guy diess he will leave islam.. It would cause a wider gap between the east and the west anyway. I thought we got rid of the Talaban but those mad mullahs are just as bad..
Originally posted by markie
I thought the koran said there is no compulsion in religion. http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20060324/cm_csm/yperkins
WASHINGTON - Efforts by the US soldiers deployed during Operation Enduring Freedom to help the Afghan people throw off the oppressive Taliban government appear not to be complete. A 41-year-old Afghan man, Abdul Rahman, is being tried for converting to Christianity 16 years ago. If found guilty by the Afghan court he faces the death penalty. The judge in the case, Ansarullah Mawlazezadah, has commented to ABC News, "We will ask [Rahman] if he has changed his mind about being a Christian. If he has, we will forgive him, because Islam is a religion of tolerance."If the guys life wasn't at stake what he said would be funny. If you change your religion we will kill you but we really are tolerant. Something isn't right.
duh! it does! n thats wat i said isn't it