Mister Supreme
Senior Member
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Did anyone catch the fight that Majestic had with Union... (BTW I own their fisrt appearances) I'm not going to bash on Majestic, but how did he become so powerful? it's like comic characters are becomming DBZ characters... Union was getting nailed by Supreme, back in the good old days if majestic was struggling with Union what do you think Supreme would do to Majestic? Another thing I picked up in your scans, if this guy is so powerful why didn't his fight with Union tear the building that they were on to pieces? It makes no sense, nut he has the power to move planets around with his physical strength?!!? Does anyone else think that this is suspect? He even fought Superman in that crossover and got the mess smacked out of him! When I first bought his first apperance, he just wasn't this powerful.
Yes,but you forgot one very important thing-Supreme DIDN'T HAVE POWERS AT ALL,AND HAD TO RELY ON POWER OF THOR'S HAMMER.
2.Union didn't become more powerful,he was equally powerful when he fought both Supreme and Mr. Majestic.If your conclusion comes from Mr. majestic's feats and Union fought Mr. Majestic-the planet mover,it doesn't mean absolutely anything!
Because,feats of power/strength don't mean anything if they aren't used insite the battlefield.
What I have also learned in comics is that feats mean nothing,if they aren't supported in battle against other characters.
So, you have fighting power/strength against feats of strength/power that an character made.
For example:
C Supes was of the era of DC feats that were their trademark. Hulk of that era was mainly a misunderstood brute. Feats were not the focus of his book like Supes.
Thor for example has lots of crazy feats like using mjolnir to absorb the energy of a null-bomb, a weapon powerful enough to destroy a huge chunk of the galaxy. Or when he used mjolnir to generate enough energy to re-ignite a star. But yet we never really see him using that scale of energy manipulation in his fights.
Or Quasar for example. Wendell could use the quantum bands to bend light around them and make the bands invisible when he was in his civilian clothes. If he can make them invisible for something that mundane, then why can't use that in a battle?? Making stuff invisible would be a useful power in a fight. But it's like the writers never seem to want to make use of it.
It often seems like the writers have two different sets of powers for some characters. Powers that they use for feats, and powers they use in fights.
Supreme is more powerful than Mr. Majestic inside the battlefield.
What's the point to have power or strength feats,if you don't show them inside the fight,Liefeld's Supreme has shown his power/strength inside the fight.
On the other hand,Mr. Majestic has re-arranged Earth's solar system-than why he couldn't beat Union?
In Supreme#14 that same Union and POWERLESS Supreme with only Thor's hammer fought to a standstill,and in the end of the fight Union pretended to be defeated,to end the fight(the same as with Marvel's Gladiator).
That would mean fully-powered Supreme would decimate Union(Supreme supposedly KOed him,but than it was revealed Union pretended himself to be KOed/defeated).
Also,that same planet-mover Mr. Majestic had problems in beating Hellspont-so,in any of fights he wasn't too powerful,and his experience wasn't realized on the paper too much.
And semi-sane Supreme is a genius,too if you didn't know.He defeated an energy being,truly powerful,in Supreme Madness#1,by frst exploring his weakness and than beating him,as wel as killing his clone(but that's where Supreme was already depowered to pathetic level.
The same depowered(actually power-less) Supreme with only Thor's hammer fought against a Pitt to a draw-you know the guy who stalemated Proffesor-Hulk(I think that crossover is inside the continuity)!
And Pitt is on Majestic's strength/power class.