Cancer

So you wouldn't help your mother or father end their life if they were dying of a terminal illness, and in pain?

If they are already dying, and cant be cured, then obviously efforts to delay the inevitable are futile, but I still wouldnt help them go...I may as well put a gun to their heads, look into their eyes and squeeze the trigger.

But if they were healthy enough to live on for a while longer, or had a shot at a cure, then I still wouldnt. Your posts on the otherhand, suggest you would.

If someone I loved had no chance at survival, and were going to die in pain, I'd anything I could to help them die with dignity. I wouldn't sit beside them, while they suffer, and wait for them to die. I don't know how anyone could do that.

I was talking about the latter part, where they have a shot at a cure. But you were posting anti-cure, so I'd assume you would let them die even if they had a shot at life.

Anyway, anyone up to that point of pain/death has the right to end their life, just the same as to continue it. By your earlier posts of suicide, I assumed you meant someone who had a good chance at living, but insist that they should die, in which case I would fight against them.

Well, if someone had a good chance of living, but still wanted to die, I would most likely let them have their wish. After all, it is their body, and if they can make a concious choice about what they wanted, I'd grant their wish, even if it were hard for me.

Yeah but...half the time, people who want to end it.....just...hmm...Im looking for the right words.....arent meant for it? I've talked with 3 people like that, and as much as they persuade themselves that they are making the right choice, eventually they come around and go 'what was I thinking' etc....letting them go would have ended a potentially happy life.

Anyway, Ive had my coffee so Im happy and relaxed, good debate. I dont think I want to continue now.....I have people in real life going through this and I dont want to keep thinking of the downsides. And apologies for the 'idiots' remark earlier 🙂

That's alright. 🙂

My Grandpop died of lung cancer, it was really bad for him at the end. I hated seeing him in pain, knowing the cancer was eating away at him. I wished ours had have been the type of family to discuss assisted suicide. My parents and I are in support of it, but my nana isn't, at least, I don't think so. I used to wish I had have brought up the subject with them both, it may have taken his pain away, if only for 5 minutes. 🙁

while its not natural to die at an early age.. it would happen regardless since atm we dont have a cure for these kinds of diseases

however noones stopping anyone from finding the cures.. most of it takes time that noone with these sicknesses really has

although I feel 'seeking immortality' in terms of an everlasting body a bit silly.. anything can go, since we are a slowly (but steadily) maturing form of life

Originally posted by allofyousuckkk
I was thinking the other day, is a cure for cancer really what we need. If you think about it in an unemotional way, it would eb bad if we found a cure for it. It is natural for people to die. We've cured so many diseases that if we were to cure cancer and aids, all the cancer and aids patients will live and there will be lots of more people. Jsut think about a world with no diseases and the only way to die is in either an accident or being old. That wouldn't be normal and it would somehow screw things up...........................................................Anyone agree?

i dont want people to die, but there is a balance and f*cking with it will screw lots of stuff up.........try to think about it from an unemotional view(p.s, im not against finding a cure, I'mjust saying it is going to turn out bad in the long run for everyone else

Finding a cure for cancer wont screw things up. It would make things better. Like Mist said, it doesnt add on extra people, seeing as those people are already here.

There are different ways to die then to die of cancer. Cancer, if you havet noticed is EXTREAMLY gruesome and painful.

To make things a little clearer I might as well discribe it to you from what I saw happen.

First the doctors found cancer in my mothers left and right breast, they had to amputate her left and take a chunk out or her right.

Then they saw it was already spread to the lymph nodes, so they tryed more chemo.

That didnt help, so they gave her 5 bottles of select painkillers and sent her home. She already had arthritis so the pain was just adding on to her misery.

She was fine for about a year in a half when she stopped being able to walk. then she stopped being able to talk, then control her bladder. Finally She stopped being able to eat, I came into her room the day before she died and looked at her. Her skin had turned grey and had a strange sag, she had no hair on any part of her body. her pupils were near to white. My father told me to say goodbye, I did. She looked straight at me and tryed to respond. All I heard was a low groan.
It hurt her that much to even say I love you to her own 11 year old daughter.

At 10:13 am the next morning she stopped breathing.

She was only 47 years old. she had a husband and a young daughter.

You have no idea what so ever how hard it is to grow up, female without a mother. NO IDEA.

If the only anti cure argument you have is it will take up more space then you really need to experiance it first hand.

He did say he lost a family member to cancer........

I am sorry for your loss, Ronny, I guess you and I feel differently about this.