Prove Evolution...win money

Started by Blue nocturne25 pages
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There was plenty of that, and I wish people would stop insulting and just posting links, but there have been some people who have posted you the facts they know and you have just replied that it doesn't make sense to you. The truth does not have to make sense to you; it has to hold up to scientific scrutiny.

I never said it doesn't make sense to me, I meant that it has never been observed and why do people keep posting links to site's that's not debating type arguements and I will provide rebuttals.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Wesker type some facts ( Please do not link me to a site) About evolution and I'll show you my point yuo don't have to agree just post some evidence in favor of evolution.

Are you just plain ignorant? I HAVE typed up numerous facts on evolution posting in reply to you before.

Originally posted by Wesker
Are you just plain ignorant? I HAVE typed up numerous facts on evolution posting in reply to you before.

Numerous facts?!

What the hell is with you and not reading links?

Afraid you'll be proved wrong by a credible source?

I can quote several times where you post links. Don't be a hypocrite.

nocture just hasn't caught up with us in the 21st century where the evidence for evolution has increased greatly.

I'm really interested to know how "God" actually created everything. What, did he just wave his hand and bam there we go nice little planet for us to live on along with 8 other planets in our SS which are totally uninhabitable, fuk sake God whats the point in that? In fact how dare any creationist/ Christian question evolution when the theory you believe so whole heartedly in has not but the single piece of evidence to back it up. Oh sorry i forgot, "You have faith" pshh ignorant is all you are, afraid to realise the truth, do some research.

Originally posted by Magee
I'm really interested to know how "God" actually created everything. What, did he just wave his hand and bam there we go nice little planet for us to live on along with 8 other planets in our SS which are totally uninhabitable, fuk sake God whats the point in that? In fact how dare any creationist/ Christian question evolution when the theory you believe so whole heartedly in has not but the single piece of evidence to back it up. Oh sorry i forgot, "You have faith" pshh ignorant is all you are, afraid to realise the truth, do some research.
✅ they know thatthe only way for people to believe the bible is if you defy evolution. But there is too much evidence supporting evolution. There hypothesis is, 'If evolution can't be proven they have to teach creationism' 'You can't prove God doesn't exist' they are so ****ing stupid, and it just makes me, scared and angry to see people like them do things like they did in Georgia. Thank **** I'm in UK.

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
Go ahead

I can quote several times where you post links. Don't be a hypocrite.

Go ahead I onlylinked because omega requested, and stop being so hostile you need to lighten up man
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Ok evolution..........It's a thing of mystery.

Originally posted by Captain Falcon
✅ they know thatthe only way for people to believe the bible is if you defy evolution. But there is too much evidence supporting evolution. There hypothesis is, 'If evolution can't be proven they have to teach creationism' 'You can't prove God doesn't exist' they are so ****ing stupid, and it just makes me, scared and angry to see people like them do things like they did in Georgia. Thank **** I'm in UK.

You can't even explain evolution with your own words falcon, that's what makes reading your post funny.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
You can't even explain evolution with your own words falcon, that's what makes reading your post funny.
If you listen to what I say FFS.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I never said it doesn't make sense to me, I meant that it has never been observed and why do people keep posting links to site's that's not debating type arguements and I will provide rebuttals.

I would still say "never having been observed" is not a flaw or an argument against the validity of evolution. The humanities and sciences are full of examples of theories and the like based upon things that no living person has seen. eg.

History - ancient, medieval - no body saw the Empire, saw the battles, nobody saw Caesar get stabbed in the Senate. But we have written sources - but they could be fiction. So we look beyond, we find statues. We find coins that refer to Caeser. We find supporting evidence.

Now clearly this doesn't mean we can't have history. It simply means we have to be cautious and careful in how we go about constructing it. And we can because past events leave proof, which can be used to build something close to accurate upon.

Now, I have said it before - The Theory of Evolution has not been seen first hand due to it taking long periods of time. But there is sufficient evidence to make it a plausible, valid theory, just as we can say we know about the Romans and Greeks. For example there is sufficient genetic similarities and anatomic ones to support the hypothesis that mankind is related to the great apes - that there were previous members of the homo strain that are related, and likely forefathers of our species. Regardless of what Whob says about such things merely being humans with diseases. Science is sure of this. They know that these are not just abnormal men and women. They are more cautious now, and such evidence undergoes rigorous testing. Now what other theory or argument out there offers an equally plausible explanation for mankind being so closely related to the great apes? What theory or argument can be presented that disproves evolutions answer for this, or disproves our relation to our extinct evolutionary forefathers?

Now as to links - some people prefer to babble on - such as myself. Some prefer to offer links to reputable sites with the relevant information they want to get across for your viewing pleasure. This to is valid, and some of the sites posses a lot of relevant information. It is worth a look.

correction evolution HAS been observed and proven on numerous occasions. what HASNT been proven is that HOW EVOLUTION FULLY WORKED TO PRODUCE HIGHER THOUGHT, EYES, SPECIALIZED ORGANS ETC STARTING FROM BARELY LIVING MATERIAL. dont be fooled, it HAS been proven, just not completely linked, and understood in its entire length.

ofcourse, you have to see it to believe it don't. 🙄

We've even discovered the fossils of the walking fish!

Originally posted by leonheartmm
correction evolution HAS been observed and proven on numerous occasions. what HASNT been proven is that HOW EVOLUTION FULLY WORKED TO PRODUCE HIGHER THOUGHT, EYES, SPECIALIZED ORGANS ETC STARTING FROM BARELY LIVING MATERIAL. dont be fooled, it HAS been proven, just not completely linked, and understood in its entire length.

When has evolution been observed, who are the people that observed?

Evolution in progress would be harder to realize than say, the movement of tectonic plates or the raising of the ocean level. You would have to see a series of mutations occur that would eventually become dominant among a subgroup of a species, and eventually that species would cease to be capable of reproduction with its parent group.

When has evolution been observed, who are the people that observed?

any breeder of animals who set aside a specific population of animal because of a desired trait to breed with one another over generations resulting in 100% of the future offspring having that trait. See over 150 breeds of canine that were created this way.........human controlled evolution.....

Originally posted by Evil Dead
any breeder of animals who set aside a specific population of animal because of a desired trait to breed with one another over generations resulting in 100% of the future offspring having that trait. See over 150 breeds of canine that were created this way.........human controlled evolution.....

That's genetic variation also known as micro-evolution, it is not macro-evolution.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
That's genetic variation also known as micro-evolution, it is not macro-evolution.

Genetic variation is evolution. Nature does not know what a species is, so it is not going to follow any of the rules you are imposing. Before you can know if a species can become another species, you have to know what a species is. Species don’t exist in real life; it is just a cataloging system we made up. It reflects a pattern in nature, but we don’t know what the rules are that govern this pattern.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
That's genetic variation also known as micro-evolution, it is not macro-evolution.

So you are happy to agree there is mirco-evolution, but not macro?

You need to get over the hurdle of "seeing" macro evolution takes a long time. Simple. Minor variations, it's not a "before" and "after" thing.

Whales - evidence in their genes and skeleton that they once were land animals. Macro.

The elephant is closely related to manatee. Macro.

Birds evolved from certain therapods. Macro.

Homo Sapiens and the great ape family. Macro

No body can say they "saw" these things happen. But they can look at the bones, the genes, etc and they can see that these species were once something else. As I said before - it is not like having a badger suddenly change into a cheese cake - millions of years of minor changes accumulate and eventually you have something new. Simply put (though it is not that simple.)

No scientist will ever be able to say "I saw the manatee and elephant evolve from a common ancestor" - but they can say (and have) "I have found evidence to suggest animal a and animal b are related to a common ancestor that diverged at xxxx years..."