Hal Jordan vs Jean Grey

Started by Cameron Scott3 pages
Originally posted by soleran30
Energy still has molecules and that means she can control them since she can molecularly control things......................anyway in a short fight Jean could win maybe 3-4/10 but the longer it goes the less likely she will even get those wins.

No it is not. Molcules are a composition of atoms attached through electro-magnetic attract.

Energy are waves(or particles depending on the quantum theory) that are much smaller than atoms themselves, and don't have mass in them. Heat, Light, Kinetic, and others are forms of energy. Heck, telekinesis is a form of energy(albeit psionic energy which isn't a part of the EM-Spectrum).

If energy were molecules then sunlight would hurt really bad considering we are being hit with them at light speed.

Their battle will just end up in bashing and smashing of force fields and constructs. It will just be a battle of who's will is stronger. So Jean will win in the end.

An experienced GL beats any non Phoenix manifesting Jean Grey incarnation

Jean Grey.

GS must trying reeeeeaaaalll hard not to commit suicide after saying what she just said..........

Originally posted by Psycho Ninja
GS must trying reeeeeaaaalll hard not to commit suicide after saying what she just said..........
1) GS is a guy!
2) He had never problems admitting, that a Grey without reaching her Phoenix (omega) potential can be beaten by a lot of people, including Hal.

Btw everyone...Jean is not omega NOW, she has ALWAYS been. That doesn't deny history at all, since a potential says nothing about a current power level of a character, but something about a power level that a character can theoretically reach someday. So "old school" Jean was simply an Omega mutant, who didn't reach her full potential yet, just like Iceman and Elixir.

Originally posted by wannabe
1) GS is a guy!
2) He had never problems admitting, that a Grey without reaching her Phoenix (omega) potential can be beaten by a lot of people, including Hal.

Btw everyone...Jean is not omega NOW, she has ALWAYS been. That doesn't deny history at all, since a potential says nothing about a current power level of a character, but something about a power level that a character can theoretically reach someday. So "old school" Jean was simply an Omega mutant, who didn't reach her full potential yet, just like Iceman and Elixir.

actually he did, hes moved mountains before in jean vs franklin richards threads etc, to try n prove that sayin jean without the pheonix force is ridiculous because she always has been the pheonix force and u cant seperate the 2. i think hes just tryin to better his reputation at the forums now.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
actually he did, hes moved mountains before in jean vs franklin richards threads etc, to try n prove that sayin jean without the pheonix force is ridiculous because she always has been the pheonix force and u cant seperate the 2. i think hes just tryin to better his reputation at the forums now.

By current continuity Jean is and always has been the Phoenix. If a threadmaker doesnt make it quite clear what incarnation of Jean they are using then i will and have in the past argued that point. SHHHH!!

Youre a fine one to be talking about reputation Leon. Who in their right minds would care that much about reputation on an online comic forum? 😕

Seeing your name hovering above the forum is enough to strike terror in the hearts of any and all who have had the past displeasure of sampling the garbled mess you call a post.

Back to the basement you abomination 🙄

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
By current continuity Jean is and always has been the Phoenix. If a threadmaker doesnt make it quite clear what incarnation of Jean they are using then i will and have in the past argued that point. SHHHH!!

Youre a fine one to be talking about reputation Leon. Who in their right minds would care that much about reputation on an online comic forum? 😕

Seeing your name hovering above the forum is enough to strike terror in the hearts of any and all who have had the past displeasure of sampling the garbled mess you call a post.

Back to the basement you abomination 🙄

very funny gs. and yet again, u fail to address the fact that u werent willing to accept pheonix and jean as two entities at any time in comicdom.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
very funny gs. and yet again, u fail to address the fact that u werent willing to accept pheonix and jean as two entities at any time in comicdom.

Anyone who reads my previous post can see why i really dont need to give this waffle the time of day. 🙄 Moving on......

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Anyone who reads my previous post can see why i really dont need to give this waffle the time of day. 🙄 Moving on......

only u then{as always}.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
actually he did, hes moved mountains before in jean vs franklin richards threads etc, to try n prove that sayin jean without the pheonix force is ridiculous because she always has been the pheonix force and u cant seperate the 2. i think hes just tryin to better his reputation at the forums now.
You didn't read my post carefully!
Yes, current continuity Jean has always been one with the Phoenix, an omega mutant, but that doesn't mean that she was always at the peak of her potential.
Iceman has always been an omega mutant too, but does that mean he was always at full awareness and capacity of this potential?!
So, when GS says, that Jean and the PF are inseparable, that they are one, he's right. Yet he can admit, that a Jean, who didn't reached the point of using the PF effectively, can be beaten by a lot of people...like he just did.

I'd say its a draw. The reason being is that it would take little more than a thought for them to kill each other. Jean really doesn't have any protection from energy and from what I know of the GL's protective force field it wouldn't stop Jean from exploding Hal's brain or other internal organs (could be wrong on how it works though). So the fight starts, they both attack and both die IMO.

Originally posted by TheKahn
I'd say its a draw. The reason being is that it would take little more than a thought for them to kill each other. Jean really doesn't have any protection from energy and from what I know of the GL's protective force field it wouldn't stop Jean from exploding Hal's brain or other internal organs (could be wrong on how it works though). So the fight starts, they both attack and both die IMO.

But then Phoenix rises again, because some weird fern in the Andromeda Galaxy is taking over and Phoenix must disinfect...

Hal Jordan in a complete curbstomp.

JEAN WINS! ALL SHE HAS TO DO IS WEAR A YELLOW BRAZILIAN BIKINI. ALL HAIL THE QUEEN!!!

Originally posted by jffxex1980
JEAN WINS! ALL SHE HAS TO DO IS WEAR A YELLOW BRAZILIAN BIKINI. ALL HAIL THE QUEEN!!!
Hal's immune to yellow.

Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
But then Phoenix rises again, because some weird fern in the Andromeda Galaxy is taking over and Phoenix must disinfect...
Hal has also simply willed himself back to life in pre and post crisis.

Originally posted by Juntai
Hal's immune to yellow.

The ring's not immune to yellow, but now the Lanterns (especially experienced ones like Hal or John) can deal with yellow rather easily.

Jean in her NXM power levels wins. This isn't the normal Jean Grey anymore neither this is the phoenix. Im talking about the Jean Grey who had the power to see difference between human blood and mutant blood without any microscope but with her bare eyes.