PhoenixForce & Thanos(hotu) vs Beyonder(classic) & Lucifer
a lot of power here.
no limitations, they battle in a universe seperate from their own realities.
and Beyonder is the original Beyonder who said and i quote, "I am more powerful than everything in the multi-verse combined", not that retconned crap story.
who will win?
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Phoenix and Thanos. They both have better feats than either of their opponents. Pre ret Beyonder was hot stuff in his day his feats have since been surpassed.
really?
beyonder was more powerful than the entire marvel multi-verse combined,
what feat is greater than that?
Originally posted by Mr Master
really?beyonder was more powerful than the entire marvel multi-verse combined,
what feat is greater than that?
this isn't an exaggeration, Phoenix existed when Beyonder appeared, and evidently marvel considered the Beyonder more powerful than anything otherwise it would not have been written in.
thoughts?
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Just words. He has no feats to back them up. His feats have since been beaten by the IG, HOTU and Phoenix.
i agree, they where words, his and others,
yet i trully believe when marvel wrote that in they meant it.
but perhaps at the time there wasn't a sensible way of portraying that kind of power and so destroying a galaxy with a mere thought was assumed to be representation enough, obviously nowadays every hee haw and his mother can rearrange reality so comic book writers are demanded to come up with more clever ways of presenting all powerful feats.
Originally posted by Mr Master
this isn't an exaggeration, Phoenix existed when Beyonder appeared, and evidently marvel considered the Beyonder more powerful than anything otherwise it would not have been written in.thoughts?
All what matters is on panel evidence. Thats all we have to go on when considering these versus matches. Beyonder has been surpassed. The aforementioned forces have him beat feats wise. Phoenix did exist when Pre retcon Beyonder was around however he faced only Rachel.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
All what matters is on panel evidence. Thats all we have to go on when considering these versus matched. Beyonder has been surpassed. The aforementioned forces have him beat feats wise. Phoenix did exist when Pre retcon Beyonder was around however he faced only Rachel.
You are about as entertaining as a child's inflatable punching toy. You bop it, it springs back, you bop it again and you forget it ever existed. It slowly deflates in an unused corner, then one day you throw it away. Why don't you close your mouth before someone sticks an apple in it?
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
You are about as entertaining as a child's inflatable punching toy. You bop it, it springs back, you bop it again and you forget it ever existed. It slowly deflates in an unused corner, then one day you throw it away. Why don't you close your mouth before someone sticks an apple in it?
Another flop attempt at humour. 🙁 Give it up old man. Its really not your thing. 🙂
in any case, if he was more powerful than the entire multi-verse combined(on panel)he was more powerful than Thanos and Phoenix.
Thanos himself said thotu wasn't the greatest power there was,
and Phoenix i can see being iether equal or beneath him but not above,
Phoenix's grandiose feat was when she held the multi-verse incheck from it somehow being destroyed, right off the bat this gives her multi-versal jurisdiction and more because she actually contained it from being destroyed if i'm correct.
Beyonder professed to be more powerful than the multi-verse combined, and we all know he was originally from beyond this multi-verse, so he automatically gets multi-versal jurisdiction, but more aswell because he actually claimed to be able to destroy the marvel multi-verse in his monologue.
if you haven't read it, i can post the whole thing if you want.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Another flop attempt at humour. 🙁 Give it up old man. Its really not your thing. 🙂
Sorry. I don't speak retardese. Can you get someone to translate into meaningful English before you post, please? You should offer your posting style to hospital operating theatres as a highly-effective alternative to unconsciousness-inducing medications.
Originally posted by Mr Master
in any case, if he was more powerful than the entire multi-verse combined(on panel)he was more powerful than Thanos and Phoenix.Thanos himself said thotu wasn't the greatest power there was,
and Phoenix i can see being iether equal or beneath him but not above,
Phoenix's grandiose feat was when she held the multi-verse incheck from it somehow being destroyed, right off the bat this gives her multi-versal jurisdiction and more because she actually contained it from being destroyed if i'm correct.Beyonder professed to be more powerful than the multi-verse combined, and we all know he was originally from beyond this multi-verse, so he automatically gets multi-versal jurisdiction, but more aswell because he actually claimed to be able to destroy the marvel multi-verse in his monologue.
if you haven't read it, i can post the whole thing if you want.
Beyonder claimed alot of things but never once performed a feat to support his words. All we can go on is what he did in the comics.
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Sorry. I don't speak retardese. Can you get someone to translate into meaningful English before you post, please? You should offer your posting style to hospital operating theatres as a highly-effective alternative to unconsciousness-inducing medications.
Its quite hilarious that you have nothing better to do with your evenings than seek me out on threads to post garbage in some misguided attempt to get your own back for past spankings in multiple threads 🙁
Give it up old guy. Noone cares. This is just plain embarassing 😮
Originally posted by Mordum
That was just a phoenix host not the whole phoenix force. The beyonder struggled throughout the whole series against all his enemies and was defeated in the end. Thanos didnt even break a sweat when he defeated everyone and gave up his power willingly.
Beyonder didn't really struggle first of all but marvel made it entertaining so drama had to play a part. Every comic would of ended in one panel maybe two, had the Beyonder been written to his potential, and that would of been boring.
Yet when he bumped into the abstracts and killed death, this is forrgotten.
He killed death, and then brought her back, with whims of thought, this is one of the well written Beyonder feats.
Beyonder was something new when he came out, and power on his scale had never been, marvel did the best they could to have the power of "god"(Beyonder) deal with mortals, immortals, cosmics and deities, there was only so much they could allow him to display in power since everyone else was so insignificant to him, hence the melodrama.
Originally posted by GalacticStormWhen god was handing out personalities, you must have been holding the door. You're so boring, even a boomerang wouldn't come back to you. Any friend of yours is a lousy judge of character. Seriously, I've come across decomposing dog carcases that are less offensive to the senses than you are. I refer to your latest discharge of plebeian verbiage; in which, you have proven, once again, that there is no such thing as unutterable nonsense. I suggest you hone your writing skills before applying borrowed glories as a mere typist.
Its quite hilarious that you have nothing better to do with your evenings than seek me out on threads to post garbage in some misguided attempt to get your own back for past spankings in multiple threads 🙁Give it up old guy. Noone cares. This is just plain embarassing 😮
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Sorry. I don't speak retardese. Can you get someone to translate into meaningful English before you post, please? You should offer your posting style to hospital operating theatres as a highly-effective alternative to unconsciousness-inducing medications.
this was funny. lol