PhoenixForce & Thanos(hotu) vs Beyonder(classic) & Lucifer

Started by GalacticStorm3 pages
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Beyonder claimed alot of things but never once performed a feat to support his words. All we can go on is what he did in the comics.

never performed a feat? are you kidding? seriously.

He had all the bacteria-organic and non-organic matter-from inanimate objects to the most ifinitesimal particle in the universe bowing down to him, not to mention every hero and villian that had been created till that time.

this is just a taste, if you know Beyonder you know there's much more.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
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Originally posted by Mr Master
never performed a feat? are you kidding? seriously.

He had all the bacteria-organic and non-organic matter-from inanimate objects to the most ifinitesimal particle in the universe bowing down to him, not to mention every hero and villian that had been created till that time.

this is just a taste, if you know Beyonder you know there's much more.

He claimed to be the most powerful being in the multiverse. What feat did he perform to conclusively support this. What did he ever do that noone in Marvel has ever shown to be capable of doing?

Phoenix & THOTU wins this. Lucifer would look so helpess here.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
He claimed to be the most powerful being in the multiverse. What feat did he perform to conclusively support this. What did he ever do that noone in Marvel has ever shown to be capable of doing?

I just told you a few posts ago why i think marvel didn't out do themselves when it came to displaying Beyonder's power, but i also told you that even though they didn't show him with feats being more powerful than everything in the multi-verse combined, just by him being written to say this, affirms him as what he claimed.
and anything less than that was simply to give the series drama.
But the true original Beyonder knocks mighty Galactus like a child in what was it one page or two panels?

Beyonder when he made himself master of all there is on earth.

"With just a thought I subject all who live to my will without resistance, without a doubt... without exception !
Why should I limit my control to humans and other higher life-forms ? I can bring even the bacteria and viruses under my control !
And why stop there ? Even inanimate matter can be controlled ! How simple to seize control of every molecule, every atom, every particle of substance in the world !
Now... everything is mine !
I own everything, I rule everything, I control everything -- virtually, every particle of matter and erg of energy on this planet -- ! And yet I am uncontent!"

Originally posted by Mr Master
I just told you a few posts ago why i think marvel didn't out do themselves when it came to displaying Beyonder's power, but i also told you that even though they didn't show him with feats being more powerful than everything in the multi-verse combined, just by him being written to say this, affirms him as what he claimed.
and anything less than that was simply to give the series drama.
But the true original Beyonder knocks mighty Galactus like a child in what was it one page or two panels?

Beyonder when he made himself master of all there is on earth.

"With just a thought I subject all who live to my will without resistance, without a doubt... without exception !
Why should I limit my control to humans and other higher life-forms ? I can bring even the bacteria and viruses under my control !
And why stop there ? Even inanimate matter can be controlled ! How simple to seize control of every molecule, every atom, every particle of substance in the world !
Now... everything is mine !
I own everything, I rule everything, I control everything -- virtually, every particle of matter and erg of energy on this planet -- ! And yet I am uncontent!"

But this is both your speculation and his words which are unsupported on panel. Those things are useless in a debate where on panel evidence is the be all and end all.

His feats are surpassed by both Phoenix and Thanos. Thats all we have to go on. Speculation isnt good enough.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
But this is both your speculation and his words which are unsupported on panel. Those things are useless in a debate where on panel evidence is the be all and end all.

His feats are surpassed by both Phoenix and Thanos. Thats all we have to go on. Speculation isnt good enough.

Whom am I calling "stupid"? I don't know. What's your name?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
But this is both your speculation and his words which are unsupported on panel. Those things are useless in a debate where on panel evidence is the be all and end all.

His feats are surpassed by both Phoenix and Thanos. Thats all we have to go on. Speculation isnt good enough.

uhh no, he did do that on panel:

"With just a thought I subject all who live to my will without resistance, without a doubt... without exception !
Why should I limit my control to humans and other higher life-forms ? I can bring even the bacteria and viruses under my control !
And why stop there ? Even inanimate matter can be controlled ! How simple to seize control of every molecule, every atom, every particle of substance in the world!"

These aren't just words, you should know this was shown on panel, it's the other thing that's not on panel, him demonstrating what he said, which was I am more powerful than everything in the multi-verse combined.

anyway i'm about to raise the bar this battle is lobsided.
new thread in a sec.

I have all the pre-rec beyonder comics he aint special. He may have knocked galactus off his feet but he quickly got back up and was ready to beat the beyonder down but then doom happened.

classic beyonder shouldnt be in any threads GS when he died he released power sevel hundred times that of the multiverse combined and i have the comic it does state that in plain words thats why i say that guys like classic beyonder, the spectre, and people like that dont belong in threads, classic beyonder might very well be more powerful then the supreme being in MU and DCU less they can both crush multiverses with a sneeze.

Originally posted by Mider
classic beyonder shouldnt be in any threads GS when he died he released power sevel hundred times that of the multiverse combined and i have the comic it does state that in plain words thats why i say that guys like classic beyonder, the spectre, and people like that dont belong in threads, classic beyonder might very well be more powerful then the supreme being in MU and DCU less they can both crush multiverses with a sneeze.

thannnnk you..

why do others sleep on Beyonder when he was clearly the most powerful being ever.
please, can you post some scans.

Originally posted by Mordum
I have all the pre-rec beyonder comics he aint special. He may have knocked galactus off his feet but he quickly got back up and was ready to beat the beyonder down but then doom happened.

Galactus was going to beat down someone who destroyed a galaxy with a thought, i don't think so.

If you would have read it like i have because i actually have the comics....cough....he was gonna use his ship to power himself up and fight the beyonder.

i thought galactus was going to eat the planet after eating his ship not fight the beyonder anyway doom did get all that power and he lost to the beyonder and was being skinned alive only reason he stole the beyonders power is cause of that special device he had in his power same old crap he did to galactus doesnt mean he's more powerful then galactus and the first time that beyonder and galactus fought beyonder brushed him off like a insect so hard he was unconscience.

Originally posted by Mordum
If you would have read it like i have because i actually have the comics....cough....he was gonna use his ship to power himself up and fight the beyonder.

I did read the comic, and that doesn't mean your right, your speculating on whether or not Galactus would have had enough powerup to beat down Beyonder, even then Galactus at full potential(not that it would have made him that)would only be universal scale, while Beyonder was more powerful than the multi-verse combined.

galactus with that power of his ship was basically in doom and doom lost to the beyonder but got his power anyway cause the beyonder got close enough for the device on dooms chest to be activated no other reason doom said he tried to win power to power but beyonder just kept powering up even higher that doom couldnt do anything and i think he was going to use that power to eat the planet (galactus) so he would win the secret wars in order to finally have his hunger cured.

Originally posted by Mider
galactus with that power of his ship was basically in doom and doom lost to the beyonder but got his power anyway cause the beyonder got close enough for the device on dooms chest to be activated no other reason doom said he tried to win power to power but beyonder just kept powering up even higher that doom couldnt do anything and i think he was going to use that power to eat the planet (galactus) so he would win the secret wars in order to finally have his hunger cured.

it's been a while since I read SW, so thanx for clearing that up, thsy really underestimate the Beyonder,
hey Mider do you have those comics digitally?

I have them all available tell what scan you want and ill post it.

Originally posted by Mordum
I have them all available tell what scan you want and ill post it.

Hey Mordum, I would love if you could send me those issues through a messenger, I have aol - and msn instant messenger.