"Again this depends on the wielder, a lightsaber in the hands of Yoda is far more effective then a Sith Sword.
Put Yoda up against Ragnos which a lightsaber Yoda will be able to block many attacks and last for a long time.
Give Ragnos a Sith Sword and Yoda a Sith sword and Yoda will die with the first attack becuase he can't lift the weapon.
Give Ragnos his sword and Yoda his lightsaber and the attacks that Ragnos will throw at Yoda will be far to strong for him to block, the impact of mass weight against no weight even when it doesn't break trhough will be enormous and to much for Yoda to handle. He would break under the pressure of Ragnos his attacks, he would not do this at all or as fast if Ragnos was using a lightsaber."
This is completely irrelavent to what I said before.
That use of Science simple doesn't work in this case because the lightsaber completely goes against science.
Idiotic. So we can't use science, huh? How fitting. I guess there's no oxygen in Star Wars since science doesn't apply.
There is no material on Earth that is similar to the beam of the lightsaber. You need to think deeper into the subject Illustrious. Why is the torque greater when the mass is further away from the pivot? It is all to do with power. The lightsaber may be lacking weight and the centre of mass might be in the hilt, but the power of the lightsaber is all stored up in the blade.
Do you even know what you're talking about? If I have a flashlight handle with a paper cone for a blade, and I attack a friend who has a metal yardstick, guess who wins?
The lightsaber is basically the perfect weapon.
Are you a lightsaber fanboy? Oh, this is a new one.
The centre of mass is close to the pivot, enabling faster swings and yet the power is focused in the blade.
Unbelievable. The center of mass is in the handle. The blade is energy, it hasno weight, and it cannot be broken but it cannot break sith blades either. And since the weapon itself is so lightweight, there is no counterweight to properly block a bigger, stronger weapon. Go get a flashlight and stick a hard plastic tube on it and then go fight a friend who has a claymore. See how well you block attacks.
The reason that the reasoning you used works for the sith sword is because the power in the sword comes from the blade and so it is logical that if the centre of mass is further away from the pivot, the greater the torque is but in a lightsaber, the power comes from the energy beam which weighs nothing so though the centre of mass is closer to the pivot, the source of the power is in the blade, ergo the source of power is furthur from the pivot, and so the torque is furthur increased. Sorry about the multiple posts BTW. I think these 5 posts cover the issue.
That was all one sentence. Wow. And all of it bullshit.
Big guy, big heavy sword, lots of practice with it beats a little guy with a lightweight sword who has less practice. Period. Now go away. You bore me.
Originally posted by Fishy
Give Ragnos his sword and Yoda his lightsaber and the attacks that Ragnos will throw at Yoda will be far to strong for him to block, the impact of mass weight against no weight even when it doesn't break trhough will be enormous and to much for Yoda to handle. He would break under the pressure of Ragnos his attacks, he would not do this at all or as fast if Ragnos was using a lightsaber.
Mass matters in this case to provide power. The heavier it is, the more powerful. But the beam of the lightsaber is an example of power without the need mass. Therefor the point that the lightsaber would crumble under a sith sword because of the weight is moot. This completely disproves the whole weight issue.
"Do you even know what you're talking about? If I have a flashlight handle with a paper cone for a blade, and I attack a friend who has a metal yardstick, guess who wins?"
This analogy is bad just like all of the ones you have used. I don't even get why people think you are so clever. You have proved tha you are not only immature but also can't admit defeat.
Originally posted by Dark Aristokrat
He's just parroting himself again. Numan, you are pathetic.
I'm pathetic. All you do is ignore my posts that prove you wrong. You selectively post to your advantage. You use the respect you have gathered on KMC to turn your assumptions and beliefs into fact. You are a Ragnos fanboy and can't take being proven wrong. You then repeatedly say that I haven't provided evidence and haven't clearly explained myself when I obviously have.
Originally posted by Numan
I'm pathetic. All you do is ignore my posts that prove you wrong. You selectively post to your advantage. You use the respect you have gathered on KMC to turn your assumptions and beliefs into fact. You are a Ragnos fanboy and can't take being proven wrong. You then repeatedly say that I haven't provided evidence and haven't clearly explained myself when I obviously have.
Yes, you are pathetic.
No, I don't ignore your posts. I read them. They make me laugh. They do not prove me wrong. They prove only your ignorance.
No, I do not selectively post to my advantage. You have yet to reply to the major shredding I did of your big argument on the past page.
No, I don't use the "respect" I've gathered here to turn my assumptions into fact. IKC isn't swayed at all by my opinions, and he readily agrees with me.
No, I am not a Ragnos fanboy. And yes, I can take being proven wrong. You just can't do it.
And no, you haven't provided any evidence. Just assumptions, hyperbole, bias and sheer ignorance.
Originally posted by Numan
Mass matters in this case to provide power. The heavier it is, the more powerful. But the beam of the lightsaber is an example of power without the need mass. Therefor the point that the lightsaber would crumble under a sith sword because of the weight is moot. This completely disproves the whole weight issue.
The lightsaber wouldn't break but the wielder of the lightsaber would break under the power of the attack.
A lightsaber doesn't suddenly stop all the energy coming towards it,there is still the matter of impact. The wielder of the lightsaber will still feel that and would therefor still feel the attack of a huge ass Sith Sword.
Originally posted by Dark Aristokrat
Nice comeback, Numan. Do you have an argument, or are you just a lightsaber fanboy?
I'll explain how your analogy is irrelavent. You are comparing the power of something that weighs less and is less powerful to something that weighs more and is more powerful. This does not apply to the saber and sith sword. While the saber is lighter, it is more powerful. Tha is why your analogy sucks.
Originally posted by IKC
Numan, a lie repeated often enough does not become the truth when people can refute the lie.Repeatedly claiming that you've won when you've proved you have zero understanding of high school physics and basic logic doesn't shine well on you.
Go to the end of page 9 and you will see that I scientifiaclly disproved Illustrious.
Originally posted by Numan
I'll explain how your analogy is irrelavent. You are comparing the power of something that weighs less and is less powerful to something that weighs more and is more powerful. This does not apply to the saber and sith sword. While the saber is lighter, it is more powerful. Tha is why your analogy sucks.
Wait? What?
Do you even read what your post.
"A lightsaber is more powerful
You can't prove a Sith Sword can be more powerful
Why not? Because a lightsaber is more powerful"
thats what you are saying.. And if you don't believe it, read it again.
While the saber is lighter, it is more powerful.
You are saying we are wrong in a debate because your oppinion is right and therefor proves all of us wrong.... Right.
Originally posted by Dark Aristokrat
A lightsaber is more powerful? Which is exactly why it doesn't cut through sith blades. Yes. Good one
Just because it can't cut through it, it doesn't mean that it is less powerful. Neither of them can cut through the other. Therefor, by your logic they are both as powerful as each other.
Originally posted by Numan
Just because it can't cut through it, it doesn't mean that it is less powerful. Neither of them can cut through the other. Therefor, by your logic they are both as powerful as each other.
No, because a sith blade has more weight, hence more mass and it has a stronger user.