Tulak Hord vs Yoda

Started by Numan21 pages

Lets look at the pros and cons for sithswords and lightsabers.

Originally posted by Numan
Surely then Tulak Hord would have had the choice as well yet he still chose a lightsaber and I would definitely hold the judgement of the best lightsaber duelist (pre KOTOR times in the opinion of Traya) over the judgement of someone whose sword was more powerful than he was.

Yeah he choice to use a lightsaber and he was the greatest fighter of that Era and apparantly one of the best if not the best lightsaber duellist ever... Doesn't make him the most powerful sith ever though.

And Ajunta being weaker then his blade? So what, that only speaks for his blade and his resourcefelness. The guy lived as a spirit for 21.000 years and was still partly sane, at least more so then Exar Kun who only lived as a spirit for 4.000 years. The guy most have done something right to live as a spirit for that long. And he created the blade, meaning he was one hell of a weapon smith.

Originally posted by Numan
Lets look at the pros and cons for sithswords and lightsabers.

depends on what you are used to, what you like and what kind of enchantments you can put on them... For somebody like Ragnos a lightsaber would be useless, the Sword would not feel heavy in his hand and he could put less of his physical power into a lightsaber. A blade however with all his strength and weight behind it would be incredibly powerful and effective.

For people like Yoda carrying around a sword would be suicide, fighting with it would be impossible.

Lol. Unless you gave Yoda a little dagger or switchblade. . .

Well a little dagger wouldn't be real effective in a fight against somebody with a sword twice your size...

Can you imagine Yoda holding up a little green dagger against Ragnos and his freaking huge ass Sith sword?

Lightsabers are extremely light and therefore do not require as much energy to swing around. They are extremely powerful and the energy beam is more powerful than any other blade (to my knowledge). Lightsabers can also very effectively be used with the force (such as throwing them, levitating them etc.). The only bad things you could say about a saber is that the energy cell can overcharge and it cannot be used underwater.

Originally posted by Numan
Lightsabers are extremely light and therefore do not require as much energy to swing around. They are extremely powerful and the energy beam is more powerful than any other blade (to my knowledge). Lightsabers can also very effectively be used with the force (such as throwing them, levitating them etc.). The only bad things you could say about a saber is that the energy cell can overcharge and it cannot be used underwater.

And Sith swords could not be thrown around using the force? "Size matters not" afterall.

They may be light as hell, but being light has its disadvantages as well. And there are some materials that can block a lightsaber, either because of advanced magics or because of the material itself.

I mean Vodo made a freaking wooden staff more powerful then a lightsaber. The force power that could have been put and likely was put into most Sith Blades would by far exceed that. Making sure that no lightsaber would just cut through it.

Originally posted by Numan
Lightsabers are extremely light and therefore do not require as much energy to swing around. They are extremely powerful and the energy beam is more powerful than any other blade (to my knowledge). Lightsabers can also very effectively be used with the force (such as throwing them, levitating them etc.). The only bad things you could say about a saber is that the energy cell can overcharge and it cannot be used underwater.

Did you just listen to what Fishy said? To most people in the ancient sith empire, whether or not a weapon was lighter made no difference.

Originally posted by Fishy
depends on what you are used to, what you like and what kind of enchantments you can put on them... For somebody like Ragnos a lightsaber would be useless

He could use a hilt that would suit his fighting technique.

Originally posted by Numan
He could use a hilt that would suit his fighting technique.

Yes a hilt weighing 50 kilo's is going to be a good idea...

Would that not defeat the purpose of a lightsaber? And if you are going to make it heavy as hell why not use a blade at the same time, a blade that you could enchant with all kinds of things making it far more effective then a lightsaber?

Originally posted by Darth Traya
Did you just listen to what Fishy said? To most people in the ancient sith empire, whether or not a weapon was lighter made no difference.

How would it not make a difference? A lighter weapon consumes less energy than a heavier weapon. And lightsabers are probably more powerful than sith swords.

Originally posted by Numan
How would it not make a difference? A lighter weapon consumes less energy than a heavier weapon. And lightsabers are probably more powerful than sith swords.

The last thing is wrong, as clearly shown in many sources, and by the fact that some people actually used Sith Swords. People like Ajunta Pall who were used to lightsabers actually choice swords over it.

and again if you are as big and strong as an elephant a few kilo's more or less will not matter. What will matter is the power that you can put into a swing and the ways you can enchant the blade... Which is obviously easier to do with a sword then with a lightsaber.

Originally posted by Fishy
Yes a hilt weighing 50 kilo's is going to be a good idea...

Would that not defeat the purpose of a lightsaber? And if you are going to make it heavy as hell why not use a blade at the same time, a blade that you could enchant with all kinds of things making it far more effective then a lightsaber?

No, a hilt just like one of a sith sword yet without the heavy blade which weighs the most.

But the weight wouldn't matter to him, it would just make him more powerful. Also a Sith sword can have enchantments that a lightsaber can not have, making them the prefered weapon for a lot of people.

Weight does not equal power.

As is shown in TOTJ, the only advantage of the enchantment would be the added power, which would still not match a lightsaber.

Neither does lack of weight..

What it does equal however is the amount of pressure you can put into each blow. Imagine me hitting you as hard as I can with a feather and then with a brick? Which will hurt more.

Now imagine you have a shield, and the weapons are both deadly. The poisoned feather hits you, you block it. It doesn't matter you can do that a billion times. I hit you on the shield with a brick it hurts the weight pushes you down...

Now if i'm as strong as an ant and weigh as much as an elephant why would I care about using a brick or a feather? Its not like I will really notice, what I do know however is that when challenging somebody that can block my attacks the brick is going to be more effective because I will smash and smash until his defence falls...

Originally posted by Fishy
But the weight wouldn't matter to him, it would just make him more powerful. Also a Sith sword can have enchantments that a lightsaber can not have, making them the prefered weapon for a lot of people.

How physically strong do you think he is?

Neither does lack of weight.

The lack of weight makes it easier to swing the blade and would be less energy consuming.

Incredible strength both physically and in the force...

It doesn't really matter the guy is huge a blade like that might weigh a lot but when somebody like Revan could wield blades a bit like that and a weakling like Tavion could also use a weapon like that, then somebody of incredible strength should be able to do so easily without getting tired really.

Originally posted by Numan
Neither does lack of weight.

The lack of weight makes it easier to swing the blade and would be less energy consuming.

If you are powerful as hell and physical weak people could handle those weapons quite well then its not really going to be a problem for Sith Lords