Tulak Hord vs Yoda

Originally posted by Fishy
Neither does lack of weight..

What it does equal however is the amount of pressure you can put into each blow. Imagine me hitting you as hard as I can with a feather and then with a brick? Which will hurt more.

Now imagine you have a shield, and the weapons are both deadly. The poisoned feather hits you, you block it. It doesn't matter you can do that a billion times. I hit you on the shield with a brick it hurts the weight pushes you down...

Now if i'm as strong as an ant and weigh as much as an elephant why would I care about using a brick or a feather? Its not like I will really notice, what I do know however is that when challenging somebody that can block my attacks the brick is going to be more effective because I will smash and smash until his defence falls...

That analogy does not apply to this argument. A brick is more powerful than a feather where a lightsaber is probably more powerful than a sith sword.

If both kill on impact neither one will be more powerful.

Look I have given you a dozen examples already, the clear fact is that a lot of Sith prefered a blade over a lightsaber. They had their reasons, are you honestly doubting thousands of years of war loving warriors? They would have created the greatest weapons of all and used them into perfection.

"If both kill on impact neither one will be more powerful."

Yet in a duel they would collide.

If both kill on impact then surely the brick would be more useful if somebody is blocking your attacks. Blocking something light can be done a million times, blocking something a thousand times heavier is going to be very hard to do a lot of times... The defence will fall faster. You can just bash them down. And if your physically powerful enough to wield a weapon that can do that, it would be nothing short of stupid if you would not.

"Look I have given you a dozen examples already, the clear fact is that a lot of Sith prefered a blade over a lightsaber. They had their reasons, are you honestly doubting thousands of years of war loving warriors? They would have created the greatest weapons of all and used them into perfection."

Yet as technology prosperred, Sith started using lightsabers again.

Originally posted by Numan
"Look I have given you a dozen examples already, the clear fact is that a lot of Sith prefered a blade over a lightsaber. They had their reasons, are you honestly doubting thousands of years of war loving warriors? They would have created the greatest weapons of all and used them into perfection."

Yet as technology prosperred, Sith started using lightsabers again.

Name one real Sith?

Exar was not a Sith, Revan was not a Sith, Nadd was not a Sith... They were Sith Lords in name not in race..

The Sith Race used swords because they were physically powerful enough to do something like that.

Originally posted by Fishy
Blocking something light can be done a million times, blocking something a thousand times heavier is going to be very hard to do a lot of times... The defence will fall faster.

As I said before weight does not equal power.

Originally posted by Fishy
Name one real Sith?

Exar was not a Sith, Revan was not a Sith, Nadd was not a Sith... They were Sith Lords in name not in race..

The Sith Race used swords because they were physically powerful enough to do something like that.

I didn't mean the sith as a race.

Originally posted by Numan
As I said before weight does not equal power.

Come on seriously, do you honestly believe that if I would put up a shield and you would hit me with a lightsaber it would make my defence fall as fast as when you would hit me with a Sith Sword?

Well maybe in your situation but lets put Ragnos up there... If he put all his weight into an attack with a lightsaber it would still not pack the same punch as when he would put half his weight into an attack with the might Sith Sword. blocking the attacks from the Sword would exhaust me, the attacks from a lightsaber... It would be doable.

Originally posted by Numan
I didn't mean the sith as a race.

Yet after the Sith Race died out, they didn't use Sith Swords anymore becuase they weren't physically powerful enough to do that. And all the Sith Lords that came after that were trained with lightsabers from birth. Not to mention the fact that retraining yourself with another weapon well the weapon would have to be damned good in order to do something like that.

Ajunta Pall his weapon was good enough for that, but I don't think a lot of others if any for tha tmatter wree. So really its only logical that they started using lightsabers from that moment on, they simply did not have the power and the few that did (Malak, Sion, Vader) would spend to much time learning how to use a new weapon to make it really effective.

The lightsaber is more powerful. It's as simple as that. Ragnos would create more power with a saber than with a sith sword.

Originally posted by Numan
The lightsaber is more powerful. It's as simple as that. Ragnos would create more power with a saber than with a sith sword.

Its not as simple as that, because you are wrong. There is nothing to support your case, if anything you are just saying the same thing over and over again without even trying to argue my points. You are just making stupid statements, meaning you lose.

If a lightsaber would have been better then they would have used a lightsaber, because they obviously had the stuff to do so.

"Yet after the Sith Race died out, they didn't use Sith Swords anymore becuase they weren't physically powerful enough to do that."

Ajunta was human and he used a sith sword.

If you would read the rest of my post you would see I already adressed that.

But seeing as for some reason you can't do it the first time I'll just quote myself

Ajunta Pall his weapon was good enough for that, but I don't think a lot of others if any for that matter were. So really its only logical that they started using lightsabers from that moment on, they simply did not have the power and the few that did (Malak, Sion, Vader) would spend to much time learning how to use a new weapon to make it really effective.

Originally posted by Fishy
Its not as simple as that, because you are wrong. There is nothing to support your case, if anything you are just saying the same thing over and over again without even trying to argue my points. You are just making stupid statements, meaning you lose.

If a lightsaber would have been better then they would have used a lightsaber, because they obviously had the stuff to do so.

I haven't argued your point? Sorry Fishy bit I have repeatedly quoted what you have been saying, acknowledged your explanation and then countered by proving you wrong. How have I not argued your point?

Originally posted by Numan
I haven't argued your point? Sorry Fishy bit I have repeatedly quoted what you have been saying, acknowledged your explanation and then countered by proving you wrong. How have I not argued your point?

You still haven't explained anything.

The lightsaber is more powerful. It's as simple as that. Ragnos would create more power with a saber than with a sith sword.

No explanation given.

As I said before weight does not equal power.

No explanation given, not even anything to counter my analogy.

You are just stating things, come up with evidence show us some things that make sense give reasons except for saying "It just is."

Originally posted by Fishy
If you would read the rest of my post you would see I already adressed that.

But seeing as for some reason you can't do it the first time I'll just quote myself

You call that addressing it. Don't be silly. All you have done is point out that you think that somehow the sith swords of Ragnos and Kressh etc. were heavier than Pall's. That is a illogical guess.

I never said they were heavier then Palls... When did I ever say that? Show me where I said that?

I did say however that it would take a lot of time to learn to use another weapon then the one you have used your entire life. It would take time to learn how to use a Sword when you are used to a lightsaber. A lightsaber which is the Jedi his weapon of choice.

After the Sith species died out all the new Sith were ex-Jedi. Learning to use a Sith Sword would take time they often didn't have. And most of them didn't have the physical power to wield one either.

How powerful a lightsaber is is quite obvious. Hardly any material can stand up against it. It is dangerous to even touch one. It can cut through walls. Plenty of other things to.

I never said they were heavier then Palls... When did I ever say that? Show me where I said that?

You were implying it. Your point wasn't very clear and you didn't evaluate on it.