Originally posted by King KAM
Phoenix isnt a mutant, she is a cosmic, and Franklin Richards isnt a mutant, but he also isnt skyfather, he has no durability and has never shown anything that could affect a skyfather, all he is right now is HYPE plain and simple....no mutant is above skyfather, its just the way it is. there is a heiarchy and mutants are at the bottom.And yes thanos is a mutant, but hes not an earth mutant, he was born with 2 mutant powers.
Franklin isn't a mutant?
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/r/richardsfranklin.htm
The cosmic radiation that had given Reed and Susan Richards their superhuman powers also resulted in affecting the genetic structure of their son: Franklin was born a mutant. Unlike most superhuman mutants, whose unusual powers do not emerge until the mutant reaches puberty, Franklin began manifesting his superhuman powers at a very early age. In the normal course of events, Franklin's psionic powers would presumably increasingly emerge as he grew older until they reach their full, vast potential when he achieves maturity.
And the Celestials seem to think he's above a skyfather and potential an equal of them. And lets not forget he created an entire pocket universe by himself as a child.
Also Hyperstorm is the mutant son of Franklin and Rachel Summers. And his powers have been compared to Galactus'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperstorm
Scarlet Witch managed to alter the entire earth and the memory of all of the people on it.
Hell, I don't even think Marvel knows what Jean is now.
But none of these characters can match a skyfather???
Originally posted by soleran30
Doesn't look like Shaman Nate either....................still inexperienced with his powers there but we are talking about Thanos there with some mysticism thrown in for good measures.
Err, this is well past the onslaugth saga. And nate beats on the hulk with just tk and psi-armor. That hardly qualifies as being "inexperienced."
Originally posted by Mider
richards at full potential is perhaps above a skyfather nate gray at full potential has done some insane crap that would scare even thanos.
Thanos has not seen much that would make him crap his pants.
When you best gods on a regular, it takes much to scare you.
Something people oftentimes forget is that Thanos IQ is a five on a scale of six. While he fights you, he IS strategizing
Originally posted by slade10
Err, this is well past the onslaugth saga. And nate beats on the hulk with just tk and psi-armor. That hardly qualifies as being "inexperienced."
Dude the guy was grown in a testube and he looks like an adult but is what like 10 years old really in that fight...............think about it born with massive powers then only 10 years to find ways to channel it and make it effective? He is still inexperienced.
Originally posted by Mider
what gods has he fought sept lame lower gods like thor who shouldnt even be called gods cause they lose to people like the wrecking crew.
Let's see Mephisto is considered a lame god???
A manifestation of pure evil on Earth?
Adam Warlock by many is considered a god.
The countless of Galactus's heralds fall at his hands with ease.
Thanos is too damn powerful for xman, Thanos has the ability to absorb any form of energy cosmic,plasma, including psionic energy. Thanos is a f**king beast you can't mind attack him even moondragon with the mind gem couldn't read his mind what makes you think xman can. Thanos has thrown down with marvels top dogs with own powers or some other power source depending on regardless thanos can pretty much beat anybody the situtation.
Originally posted by waterboy
why does everybody always bring up cable vs surfer.cable wanted to die ,he let surfer kill. he did it so his true power could be released.he knew he would only die in the physical sense.read the book more carefully
not really. Since when did the surfer go around killing human mutants that really arent' a threat to him? the fact that SS decided to just take away his powers proved this. Wouldn't a powerfully telepath know this about him?
and for someone who was willing to die by the surfers hand he sured did resist the surfer a lot.
He's right in a fashion, btw. Throughout that issue, Cable & Deadpool #10. Nathan and Irene Merryweather were going through an entire conversation in which Nathan revealed his master plan. That plan being to unite the entire world against him and ultimately sacrifice himself so they would understand the folly of their ways.
In other words he was trying to be a Mutant Jesus Christ. He even mentioned in the comic that he feared NONE of the earth-based heroes and that none of them could stop him unless they located someone who could generate enough raw energy to burn his own out quickly, ex; Silver Surfer.
And the Surfer never really TOOK Nathan's powers from him. He just wounded Cable. It was Deadpool who used a devise to lobotomize Cable and take away his powers at CABLE'S request. Cable could have easily survived Radd's injury. So yes, Cable intended to get rid of his powers.
Originally posted by Black Adam
not really. Since when did the surfer go around killing human mutants that really arent' a threat to him? the fact that SS decided to just take away his powers proved this. Wouldn't a powerfully telepath know this about him?and for someone who was willing to die by the surfers hand he sured did resist the surfer a lot.
he had to put up a fight to get surfer mad enough to kill him ,because surfer doesn't just go around killing unless he feel he has no choice. not saying he would have beat surfer ,but going all out it would have been a better fight. he did break surfers board with his tk
Originally posted by Mider
richards at full potential is perhaps above a skyfather nate gray at full potential has done some insane crap that would scare even thanos.
If it said equal to Celestial, than Skyfather wouldn't be close to Franklin Richards, a mutant.
Originally posted by King KAM
Phoenix isnt a mutant, she is a cosmic, and Franklin Richards isnt a mutant.
Hahahha, you are joke.
be nice people darkone why do you always come on here saying that this character and that character can beat such and such with no proof im sorry but you already kinda admited that you dont have time in your life to study on these characters making your own opinions mute you did this to yourself no one did it to you. So it makes me think youve never studied shamain nate and the crazy stuff he's done and it makes me think you wouldnt know if he truly is more powerful then thanos which in my opinion he is.
Not even Shaman Nate is full-potential. He had better control of his powers, but didn't that tattoo limit them to a physically managable level?
full potential nate grey would require a body with superhuman durability and/or regeneration; at that level, i think he would give thanos a fight on an off day.
completely speculative thanos 8/10