Wolverine taking Venom/Hulk/Spidey/ actually, I think everyone gets it: Wolverine's wins are mostly bullshit
And Aquaman and Bats ever keeping up with the JL? hmm... Supes, Flash, WW, GL, MM would not sit and wait for Brucey to hop in his car, and on that subject, when people carry him, and fly really frickin fast, how does he even survive?
Originally posted by spetznazI know his stated abilities.
Then why did you put the Flash's sub-second evacuation here.
What is the Speed Force if not some super-science/quasi-magic energy realm?
And if by tapping into the SF he can travel at close the speed of light, and by joining with the SF travel faster than that, then evacuating people at close to the speed of light is not such an issue.
Originally posted by wannabeNot if he was in the speed force. He might have been able to walk and do it.
I know his stated abilities.
The problem was, that, though the author stated he was close to the speed of light, which would have been ok, he actually had to be MILLIONS of times faster than light, given the numbers the author gave us, and that is a little much...even for Flash!
I agree though, the numbers are ****ed if taken at face value.
Still he did the feat. lol.
Ult. Colossus hitting Ult. Magneto
Ult. Colossus beating Ult. Thor and Ult. Iron Man
Wolverine stabbing Ben in the arm simply by leaping
Wolverine beating Torch
Wolverine taking on Savage Hulk
Grey Hulk drowning the Thing (Ben can hold his breath for up to 8 minutes or more)
Wolverine healing from a skelaton
Originally posted by Grimm22i agree...
Ult. Colossus hitting Ult. MagnetoUlt. Thor and Ult. Iron Man taking on Ult Colossus
Wolverine not cutting Ben's head off
Torch taking on Wolverine
Savage Hulk taking on Wolverine
Grey Hulk drowning the Thing (Ben can hold his breath for up to 8 minutes or more)
Wolverine healing from a skelaton
if those flash numbers are to be taken at "face value," he was moving at 5,040,000,000,000,000 miles per hour. that's five quadrillian, or FIVE THOUSAND TRILLION, miles per hour. the speed of light is approximately 671,000,000 miles per hour. six hundred seventy-one million. the exaggeration is unbelievable.
Originally posted by Disappear
if those flash numbers are to be taken at "face value," he was moving at 5,040,000,000,000,000 miles per hour. that's five quadrillian, or FIVE THOUSAND TRILLION, miles per hour. the speed of light is approximately 671,000,000 miles per hour. six hundred seventy-one million. the exaggeration is unbelievable.
It's actually not his best feat. Hell, to outrun Death (literally) he ran outside of time until everything didn't exist...including Death.
Another time he ran a race in space (think Rainbow Road) at 875 lightyears per SECOND.
He's a walking talking plot device. He has no limit to his speed. He can be as fast as he (or more accurately the writer) wants to be.
So it's not really outside his abilities. It's just outside of logical reasoning....
Originally posted by Tron
Hulk destroying an asteroid twice the size of Earth with one punch. That's like shooting a needle at a mountain. And, regardless, the Earth would be screwed from all the debris anyway.
Originally posted by spetznaz
Then why did you put the Flash's sub-second evacuation here.
What is the Speed Force if not some super-science/quasi-magic energy realm?
And if by tapping into the SF he can travel at close the speed of light, and by joining with the SF travel faster than that, then evacuating people at close to the speed of light is not such an issue.
And the SF takes care of things like friction (doesn't exist in the SF, and hence he and anybody he is carrying doesn't spontaneously combust due to air friction), injury (cushions the Flash and whatever/whoever he is carrying from the effects of super-velocity ...eg how to breath when moving that fast), etc etc.
Actually in all of comic-dom, the Speed Force is ONE of the best explained 'forces' out there. The way it is set up actually takes care of many of the questions that would arise otherwise.
And in real life something similar exists ......when scientists found that they could make quarks move faster than the speed of light (something that was thought to be impossible), as well as exist in two places at the same time, there was a whole 'other dimensional' aspect to the whole shebang. Now, obviously this is in sub-atomic particles, but it does have properties that are quite analogous to the whole Speed Force concept.
Thus the Flash, and his feats (even the most ludicrous ones) simply do not belong here, which is interesting because of all the comic characters I can think of the Flash is the ONLY ONE that (to me) can do virtually ANYTHING and it makes sense .....the only explanation necessary is 'the Speed Force.'
Whoever came up with the concept at DC deserves an award ......and the fight between the various Flashes (and their SF) versus Zoom (with his time-jump sequence) actually touched a lot on some of the facets of string-theory and quantum physics.
Exactly. ✅