spetznaz
Senior Fanboy Killer
Originally posted by Marcus4600
Actually, 616 Colossus is now as strong as his Ultimate counterpart. Here's the team that I would go with.Professor X (pre-house of M)
Colossus
Cyclops
Bishop
Cable
Scalet Witch
Magneto (pre-House of M)
Quicksilver
Here's how it would work. No ambush needed. Colossus is definately as strong as Supes. Also, none of Supes' abilites aside from flight could really work on him. Anyone who uses energy wouldn't be able to harm Bishop, and he'd just throw it right back at them. Scarlet Witch could use anything to her advantage, possibly even turning the Green Lantern's ring into a party favor, Supes' costume into Kryptonite, and she's more than a match for Zatanna. Magneto, well, everyone is f*cked if there's metal around. Quicksilver could keep up with Flash for a while, and if not, then you've got the psychic abilities of Cable and Professor X.
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Actually the rest of your team wouldn't work.
There is a reason the other posters went for REALLY powerful characters, yet you picked a team that would find taking down the Titans problematic!
Take Bishop for example. You claim that anyone who used energy wouldn't be able to take him out, and that he would just unleash it back at the assailant.
Well, for one I doubt that Bishop's energy absorption powers are limitless (in that he may be able to absorb a concussive blast from Cyclops, but I doubt he can absorb a full blast from Superman's heat vision .....which has been shown to be hotter than a sun's core).
BUT ....for the sake of argument let's say that Bishop was so powerful when it came to energy absorption that he could even absorb the mightiest blast from the Living Tribunal.
Ok, let's assume that.
How in goodness name will he be able to take a punch delivered by Martian Manhunter, WonderWoman or Superman?
They'll be coming in at him at frenetic speed, and each of them can almost shift small tectonic plates.
What in blazes will Bishop do ....shoot at them with his guns?
Cyclops .....here is another person that would be best used against Batman and no one else. His concussive blasts are for naught against Supes, MM and WW, and GL and Zatanna would just block them automatically. He wouldn't even see the Flash. Also note that Cyclops would be taken out before a second was over by either the Flash, Supes, WW, MM or GL. If he is lucky. If he is unlucky then Zatanna gets to do something really nasty to him.
Professor X .....he'd also be out before a second is over. Note, you said in your post (for SOME reason ....probably the assumption that the X-men are uber powerful ....that your team would NOT need to ambush the JLA). Prof X is taken out so fast that he wouldn't even have a single thought (I went to great lengths describing how this would happen in the Superman vs Professor X thread, where I showed that a Superman travelling at 0.01% of his TOP speed would still be fast enough to take out Xavier before the good professor could even get one thought transferred through his neurons .....even if we were to assume every nerve in him was mylineated due to his mutation).
Supes, MM, WW ....and ofcourse the Flash ....would take out the good professor before he even thought.
Especially since you, so imprudently, said that your team is NOT ambushing the JLA.
I've already dealt with Quicksilver. To be honest with you I doubt the JLA would even bother with him .....the only person he would be a threat to is Batman, and if he is protected by the rest of the team then QS wouldn't be able to harm any of the rest. They would either be too fast, too powerful, or way out of reach ....in most cases ALL three at the same time.
Colossus .....as strong as Superman .....LOL.
Nice joke.
The heavy hitters in your group are Cable (assuming you have him at his most powerful ....because if he brings his regular showing he is just as useless as the rest, but without any restrictions and no virus he can be a Nate level threat ....for there would be no difference) and obviously the Scarlett Witch (who can be bad news).
However those two will be facing the entire JLA, and they WILL go down.
Anyways, without PIS/CIS (and the need to draw out the fight for 1,000 panels when in truth it could be taken care of in half a panel), your team goes down in ....say .....1 second.
0.00001 (5 decimal places) of second to get rid of everyone in your team, and the remaining fraction of a second for the Flash to search for the best Bistro in the Western hemisphere so as to get some takeout supper for his team.
Note: The original poster said that while the JLA couldn't be at their full potential (i.e sun-dipped Superman, Fernus MM, godwave WW), that they would still have full use of their 'normal' powers.
In JLA:Trial by Fire, the Flash evacuated an entire city of 500,000 people (taking them in twos and threes) in 0.00001 of a second ....while a nuclear detonation was occuring ....and transported the people (remember in small groups of 2s and 3s) to a place far way enough that they wouldn't be hurt by the nuke.
If he can relocate 500,000 people that far (and note he is searching for them in the city),and do it in a fraction of a second, then how in goodness name will your team (that is NOT even ambushing them) fare against the Flash.
And then there is the rest of the JLA.
Goodness ....0.00001 of a second is actually too much time.
Your team would get owned.
There is a reason posters like 'The Kahn' went for teams that were extremely powerful instead of picking people like Colossus, Quicksilver, Bishop and Cyclops.