Originally posted by juggernaut66666which comicbook is that ?
Juggernaut vs gambit😄😄😄😄😄😄😄
Here is some scans of depowered juggernaut fighting sasquatch, guardian, and vindicator in hulkbuster armor!
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The more i reread my juggernaut redemtion series comics the more i think that he is still above colossus by quite a bit. I feel almost like he lost the limitless aspect of his strength and durability, and when he uses them it actually takes strain, but he can call upon a great amount of his strength and is definetly still at least class onehundred.
He took on three well seasoned members of alpha flight (who were wearing HULK BUSTER ARMOR) and the bullets still couldnt penetrait his skin when they shot him and he was laughing as he fought them, making jokes. He tossed them around alot and sasquatch who is class onehundred, and had the armor was still loseing to juggernaut.
He also once slammed Lorna, AKA Polaris, with a tree, the blow broke her sheild and drove her body into the ground. that would definetly take strength, this was after depower and after lorna had studied with magneto on the use of her power.
He showed that he definetly has some fighting skill because he used it agenst the fake juggernaut, saying things like "he doesn't have my experience" and "even though im at like half his strength maybe, im still kicking his butt"
Just thinking about it and had to say it somehow...
Originally posted by outarddwarfI actually like Juggy more than Colossus but I don't think he is stronger than Colossus currently. The whole struggling to lift a weight Colossus could do easily in X-men #157 should clarify this.
The more i reread my juggernaut redemtion series comics the more i think that he is still above colossus by quite a bit. I feel almost like he lost the limitless aspect of his strength and durability, and when he uses them it actually takes strain, but he can call upon a great amount of his strength and is definetly still at least class onehundred.He took on three well seasoned members of alpha flight (who were wearing HULK BUSTER ARMOR) and the bullets still couldnt penetrait his skin when they shot him and he was laughing as he fought them, making jokes. He tossed them around alot and sasquatch who is class onehundred, and had the armor was still loseing to juggernaut.
He also once slammed Lorna, AKA Polaris, with a tree, the blow broke her sheild and drove her body into the ground. that would definetly take strength, this was after depower and after lorna had studied with magneto on the use of her power.
He showed that he definetly has some fighting skill because he used it agenst the fake juggernaut, saying things like "he doesn't have my experience" and "even though im at like half his strength maybe, im still kicking his butt"
Just thinking about it and had to say it somehow...
Oh and Sasquatch is not class 100 either he is class 70 officialy. But Juggy taking on Alpha Flight in his depowered form was cool. But recently in New X-men #25 Colossus schooled the New X-men when it was 7 on 1. Colossus easily kicked their @sses.
Where does it say that colossus could do it easily??????
it says that he is not a colossus level, which can be taken two ways, in that he is not up to lift what colossus could lift, or that he isn't at colossus max strength level yet and he has begun to struggle with the weight (having lifted all previous weights with little to no effort). My attempt is to prove the misleading nature of that dialog.
sasquatch is class seventy like namor is class eighty. In the minds of handbook makers only. You can see plenty of feats making sasquatch out to be class onehundred in the alpha flight respect thread. (thanks to munji).
Originally posted by snoopdoggYou're not comparing Juggernaut taking on Alpha Flight to Colossus taking on the New X-Men team in a training excersise are you?
But Juggy taking on Alpha Flight in his depowered form was cool. But recently in New X-men #25 Colossus schooled the New X-men when it was 7 on 1. Colossus easily kicked their @sses.
Originally posted by Lucid LuiNo, but all they had to do was knock him down and they didn't. Colossus wasn't even trying to hurt them like Juggy was trying to hurt Alpha Flight.
You're not comparing Juggernaut taking on Alpha Flight to Colossus taking on the New X-Men team in a training excersise are you?
Bottom line is Colossus wasn't even trying to hurt them and still smoked them. Plus it was 7 on 1.
Originally posted by outarddwarfYour right it doesn't say Colossus can lift it easily. But I applied some common sense to figure it out. You see I lift weights 3 to 4 times a week. I can lift 50lbs under my max pretty easily without struggling. And the pic states that Juggy wasn't at Colossus' level yet meaning that Colossus could lift that weight easily. So that means that if Juggernat was not at Colossus' level yet Colossus could have lifted that weight without struggling.
Where does it say that colossus could do it easily??????
it says that he is not a colossus level, which can be taken two ways, in that he is not up to lift what colossus could lift, or that he isn't at colossus max strength level yet and he has begun to struggle with the weight (having lifted all previous weights with little to no effort). My attempt is to prove the misleading nature of that dialog.
it is very much in question the validity of this quote.
Things we don't know:
If when they said that he was below colossus' level they were referring to his base level in workout or the greatest weight set colossus lifts. The reason the speakers statement was made be of surprise could have been because the juggernaut had to show exertion (since he was able to lift anything he wanted without even straining a muscle before de-powering.)
How far exactly was Juggernaut under colossus' level, he could have been but one setting on the dial below and had only just begun struggling, or he could have been 50 tons away. We just can't say.
Every person is different, Cain Marko might have a body that can work closer to his maximum without struggling than you or it is possible that he could begin to show his strain at a lower point on his strength range so comparing you and him doesn't mean much. Cain also could lift weights almost every day or might lift them rarely. We don't know the structure of his workout to know how much endurance it gives him or how he acts during.
What we do know:
He asks for more on the next page, this could just be his pride talking or it could be that he really knew he could take more weight with confidence.
it is really quite open to interpretation.
Originally posted by outarddwarfThat was pretty cool when depowered Juggernaut gave Alpha Flight a run while they were wearing Hulk-buster armor.
thought the same thing. Plus there was HULK buster armor. Sorry just in love with the fact that depowered juggernaut womped people wearing armor that should make them able to take on and possibley take down the hulk.
