What makes you believe that your God/Religion is the right one?

Started by Shakyamunison7 pages
Originally posted by finti
just had to reply just because of that

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You should visit there more often..........quite entertaining...

Originally posted by FeceMan
I hate that I get the reference.

Why is Christianity correct? Christianity is the only religion in which the son of God--a divine being in the flesh--came and sacrificed himself so that everyone, even the lowest, the most wretched scum of the Earth, could have eternal life. Christ died a criminal's death; he was made a fool and mocked and scorned. He suffered the agony of crucifixion. He bore our sins to the grave and took our guilt and shame--and he would gladly do it again.

But how do we even know that Jeses was real and not a made up story.
To believe in the new testiment we have to have faith that the folks 2000 years ago were being honest and correct. Faith with no proof of truth. I'm told by believers that the bible is the direct word of God so I have to believe, but how do I know the bible is the direct word of God.
Just curious...

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
All religions are the right one. All religions have at their core the truth, but it's like the 6 blind men and the elephant, they all draw conclusions that are inherently incorrect.

If the elephant represents the core truth, and six blind men are writing their observations about the truth(elephant) but they really have no clue what it is they are feeling and writing about, how can it really be based on truth, wouldn't that be distorted truth??

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Originally posted by blackhat
If the elephant represents the core truth, and six blind men are writing their observations about the truth(elephant) but they really have no clue what it is they are feeling and writing about, how can it really be based on truth, wouldn't that be distorted truth??

Yes, it is distorted truth, but truth non-less. We live in a universe that we can never understand. To find even distorted truth in this world is amazing, almost amazing enough to make you believe in God.

Originally posted by blackhat
But how do we even know that Jeses was real and not a made up story.
To believe in the new testiment we have to have faith that the folks 2000 years ago were being honest and correct. Faith with no proof of truth. I'm told by believers that the bible is the direct word of God so I have to believe, but how do I know the bible is the direct word of God.
Just curious...

I thought the bible was written not directly from Gods words but by divine inspiration or some such.

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yes, it is distorted truth, but truth non-less. We live in a universe that we can never understand. To find even distorted truth in this world is amazing, almost amazing enough to make you believe in God.

Distorted truth is just a polite word for false information. The only reason the false information wouldn't be a lie is because it was created out of ignorance.

Originally posted by soleran30
I thought the bible was written not directly from Gods words but by divine inspiration or some such.

It is called THE WORD OF GOD. Many believe although a man wrote it with his hand, the word camd from God, that the bible is the excat word of God. Although, the koran was supposed to be written in Heaven by God Himself and delivered to Mohammot by 2 angels. Guess everyone's holy book is the direct word of God.

Originally posted by blackhat
It is called THE WORD OF GOD. Many believe although a man wrote it with his hand, the word camd from God, that the bible is the excat word of God. Although, the koran was supposed to be written in Heaven by God Himself and delivered to Mohammot by 2 angels. Guess everyone's holy book is the direct word of God.

Oh my brother I am aware of what some people call it..............I was more interested in how they came up with justifying how it came to be🙂

Originally posted by soleran30
Oh my brother I am aware of what some people call it..............I was more interested in how they came up with justifying how it came to be🙂

Don't know that one, perhaps some make it up as they go along, or maybe God told them.

To believe or not to believe...that is the question!

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Originally posted by blackhat
Distorted truth is just a polite word for false information. The only reason the false information wouldn't be a lie is because it was created out of ignorance.

To a degree, if it helps you to survive it is good. There is scientific evidence that being spiritual makes you live longer and have a better life. That is the truth I am talking about. You are talking about all of the myths. The truth behind spirituality is more elusive.

BEHOLD! God speaks through me! " Does ANYONE have a light? " God has spoken! 🤨

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I study religion and religion i s important but there are such things as unhealthy religions a recent found that According to the study, belief in and worship of God are not only unnecessary for a healthy society but may actually contribute to social problems.

The study counters the view of believers that religion is necessary to provide the moral and ethical foundations of a healthy society.

It compares the social peformance of relatively secular countries, such as Britain, with the US, where the majority believes in a creator rather than the theory of evolution. Many conservative evangelicals in the US consider Darwinism to be a social evil, believing that it inspires atheism and amorality.

Many liberal Christians and believers of other faiths hold that religious belief is socially beneficial, believing that it helps to lower rates of violent crime, murder, suicide, sexual promiscuity and abortion. The benefits of religious belief to a society have been described as its “spiritual capital”. But the study claims that the devotion of many in the US may actually contribute to its ills.

The paper, published in the Journal of Religion and Society, a US academic journal, reports: “Many Americans agree that their churchgoing nation is an exceptional, God-blessed, shining city on the hill that stands as an impressive example for an increasingly sceptical world.

“In general, higher rates of belief in and worship of a creator correlate with higher rates of homicide, juvenile and early adult mortality, STD infection rates, teen pregnancy and abortion in the prosperous democracies.

“The United States is almost always the most dysfunctional of the developing democracies, sometimes spectacularly so.”

Gregory Paul, the author of the study and a social scientist, used data from the International Social Survey Programme, Gallup and other research bodies to reach his conclusions.

He compared social indicators such as murder rates, abortion, suicide and teenage pregnancy.

The study concluded that the US was the world’s only prosperous democracy where murder rates were still high, and that the least devout nations were the least dysfunctional. Mr Paul said that rates of gonorrhoea in adolescents in the US were up to 300 times higher than in less devout democratic countries. The US also suffered from “ uniquely high” adolescent and adult syphilis infection rates, and adolescent abortion rates, the study suggested.

Mr Paul said: “The study shows that England, despite the social ills it has, is actually performing a good deal better than the USA in most indicators, even though it is now a much less religious nation than America.”

He said that the disparity was even greater when the US was compared with other countries, including France, Japan and the Scandinavian countries. These nations had been the most successful in reducing murder rates, early mortality, sexually transmitted diseases and abortion, he added.

Mr Paul delayed releasing the study until now because of Hurricane Katrina. He said that the evidence accumulated by a number of different studies suggested that religion might actually contribute to social ills. “I suspect that Europeans are increasingly repelled by the poor societal performance of the Christian states,” he added.

He said that most Western nations would become more religious only if the theory of evolution could be overturned and the existence of God scientifically proven. Likewise, the theory of evolution would not enjoy majority support in the US unless there was a marked decline in religious belief, Mr Paul said.

“The non-religious, proevolution democracies contradict the dictum that a society cannot enjoy good conditions unless most citizens ardently believe in a moral creator.

“The widely held fear that a Godless citizenry must experience societal disaster is therefore refuted.

This response is not to defend or attack religion, just thought I'd respond. So Mr Paul did a study. You have so many "he said's" in this comment you sound like the extremest religious and their "the bible say's" everytime they talk.
I can't help but notice when I read about studies, they the person conducting the study us usually not after the truth, although they say they are, they are usually trying to prove what they already believe to be true. That is not a good study, it has to many blinders.
USA is not really that religious a country, though there are plenty of religious citizens here. Just talk to your average person, they often know very little about their own religion.
The people doing all the crime and murders and teens getting pregnant are not of the religious group, many of them don't believe in God.
Our high crime, teen pregnancies, and STD's and AIDS have nothing to do with religion. And although we may have higher numbers than many countries, many countries have higher numbers than the USA, and they are not religious. There are African and Asian countries with much much higher numbers of STD's and AIDS that are not considered religious countries at all. If someone is going to do a real study, they really should do it right. So you could say, even though there is much religion in this country, we still have many problems. But those problems are caused by other issues, not religion. Being a wealthy nation seems to contribute to many of our attitudes. Freedom has it's disadvantages as well as advantages. People do whatever they want. With easy laws and no religion, what keeps a person decent...he's on his own. When people commit crimes and murder in the name of God, it's not the worship that really causes them to be that way, it's just their mentality. I'm sure you could find many criminally minded people and if you could convince them that if they kill certain people that God will reward them, it will certainly not change them for the better. I am not defending religion, but let's be realistic here.

Originally posted by blackhat
This response is not to defend or attack religion, just thought I'd respond. So Mr Paul did a study. You have so many "he said's" in this comment you sound like the extremest religious and their "the bible say's" everytime they talk.
I can't help but notice when I read about studies, they the person conducting the study us usually not after the truth, although they say they are, they are usually trying to prove what they already believe to be true. That is not a good study, it has to many blinders.
USA is not really that religious a country, though there are plenty of religious citizens here. Just talk to your average person, they often know very little about their own religion.
The people doing all the crime and murders and teens getting pregnant are not of the religious group, many of them don't believe in God.
Our high crime, teen pregnancies, and STD's and AIDS have nothing to do with religion. And although we may have higher numbers than many countries, many countries have higher numbers than the USA, and they are not religious. There are African and Asian countries with much much higher numbers of STD's and AIDS that are not considered religious countries at all. If someone is going to do a real study, they really should do it right. So you could say, even though there is much religion in this country, we still have many problems. But those problems are caused by other issues, not religion. Being a wealthy nation seems to contribute to many of our attitudes. Freedom has it's disadvantages as well as advantages. People do whatever they want. With easy laws and no religion, what keeps a person decent...he's on his own. When people commit crimes and murder in the name of God, it's not the worship that really causes them to be that way, it's just their mentality. I'm sure you could find many criminally minded people and if you could convince them that if they kill certain people that God will reward them, it will certainly not change them for the better. I am not defending religion, but let's be realistic here.

The united states has higher church attendance then countries in Europe, and religion has been the issue of violence and problems whenever a KKK light a cross he's asking for the light of Christ, whenever a homo sexuality is criticized the main reasons religion.

I didn't say every problem is caused by religion that's impossible I simply said religion it self doesn't make a society better it create's problems most of the time.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
The united states has higher church attendance then countries in Europe, and religion has been the issue of violence and problems whenever a KKK light a cross he's asking for the light of Christ, whenever a homo sexuality is criticized the main reasons religion, the crusades and the Spanish inquisitions are all example's.

USA has a lot more of EVERYTHING than the European countries.
Studies need to look at EVERYTHING if they are to be acurate or scientific, not just what they are trying to prove.
KKK lighting a cross has nothing to do with religion and the worship of God. They are hatefull people, they are racist, they hate. No religion made them that way. The are into white power. They are terrorest, as they terrorize black and Jewish folks. Muslem terrorest also use the name of God to kill, but they are terrorest, people who hate other people and want to kill them.

Originally posted by blackhat
USA has a lot more of EVERYTHING than the European countries.
Studies need to look at EVERYTHING if they are to be acurate or scientific, not just what they are trying to prove.
KKK lighting a cross has nothing to do with religion and the worship of God. They are hatefull people, they are racist, they hate. No religion made them that way. The are into white power. They are terrorest, as they terrorize black and Jewish folks. Muslem terrorest also use the name of God to kill, but they are terrorest, people who hate other people and want to kill them.

Right and there religious, read there books and you'll see how violent it is I have.