Would You Honestly Have Believed In Your Relegion Today If Your Parent/society Hadnt

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Originally posted by MicahLynn
I'd be careful saying things like that. Really.

I am sorry that you are afraid.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I do agree, week faith is not worth having.

Seven days worth of faith?

It is better to be a blind devotee with absolute conviction than a wishy-washy follower made out of habit.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Your truth is a myth. I try to speak to you in words that you will understand. Over 20 years ago I was a Christian so I know the bible well, but it has been a long time so I don't always get my scriptures right. Your encouragement is appreciated, but I know what you are really saying. You should learn something from the Mormons.

I will give you one guarantee: you were never a Christian. If you were, you would never change from it. You don't know the Truth and then decide to believe the lies. You never truly knew God and the gift of His Son Jesus, for if you had you would be so grateful and would never consider turning away from Him. I understand that all people fail and stumble and fall, but I truly believe that once you really know Christ there is no going back to the way things were. Once He transforms your life, you don't want to go back to the way things were without Him. And, by the way, the Bible says that even satan and his demons know the Word and tremble. Even satan quoted it to Jesus in the wilderness. So, knowing the Bible doesn't make you a Christian. It is so much deeper than that. I'm not even going to bother speaking on the Mormon topic.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Lost!...Whose to say I'm lost, maybe it's you that are lost. Lost people many times don't even know they are lost until it's too late because they've wasted so much time thinking they were on the right path.

This comes from someone who is lost....Because Satan is a myth.

Funny thing is, I'm positive you are speaking of yourself when you speak of the lost not even knowing they are lost until it is too late. What do you believe that it could ever be too late? Seeing as how you don't believe in satan and hell, what would make it too late?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I am sorry that you are afraid.

FYI... Evil is the opposite of Good. God is good, perfect, holy, complete, He is the exact opposite of evil. They don't go together. They aren't synonymous or parallel in ANY way.

And, my definition of fear is different than yours. My fear is the same as reverance. Because God is so perfect, He must be revered. I can't take God lightly, He is too powerful and wonderful for that. I only wish that you would be more careful in the way you speak of Him, but I guess that has to start with you believing in Him.

Originally posted by MicahLynn
Funny thing is, I'm positive you are speaking of yourself when you speak of the lost not even knowing they are lost until it is too late. What do you believe that it could ever be too late? Seeing as how you don't believe in satan and hell, what would make it too late?
No, I'm not speaking of myself....Lost as in they've wasted their lives trying to please the inappeasable god for fear of hell and demons and eternal suffering. Going through anguish about their every action. Was I good enough? We're my thoughts right? Did I remember to ask forgiveness for this action? They spend their whole life HOPING they did it all right and crossed every "T". Because if not, they're damned. Meanwhile, they've missed out on living.

All for a myth.

Originally posted by MicahLynn
FYI... Evil is the opposite of Good. God is good, perfect, holy, complete, He is the exact opposite of evil. They don't go together. They aren't synonymous or parallel in ANY way.

And, my definition of fear is different than yours. My fear is the same as reverance. Because God is so perfect, He must be revered. I can't take God lightly, He is too powerful and wonderful for that. I only wish that you would be more careful in the way you speak of Him, but I guess that has to start with you believing in Him.

I am not speaking blasphemy. God is everything. Good and evil do not exist without each other; their true nature is Myoho, life and death. There is nothing outside of God; therefore all that exists is part of God. Does evil exist?

Originally posted by MicahLynn
I will give you one guarantee: you were never a Christian. If you were, you would never change from it. You don't know the Truth and then decide to believe the lies. You never truly knew God and the gift of His Son Jesus, for if you had you would be so grateful and would never consider turning away from Him. I understand that all people fail and stumble and fall, but I truly believe that once you really know Christ there is no going back to the way things were. Once He transforms your life, you don't want to go back to the way things were without Him. And, by the way, the Bible says that even satan and his demons know the Word and tremble. Even satan quoted it to Jesus in the wilderness. So, knowing the Bible doesn't make you a Christian. It is so much deeper than that. I'm not even going to bother speaking on the Mormon topic.

*sigh* Last time I checked, it was God who knows who's christian and who's not. And does it really matter how the equation is solved if in the end you get the same answer?

Originally posted by MicahLynn
FYI... Evil is the opposite of Good. God is good, perfect, holy, complete, He is the exact opposite of evil. They don't go together. They aren't synonymous or parallel in ANY way.

And, my definition of fear is different than yours. My fear is the same as reverance. Because God is so perfect, He must be revered. I can't take God lightly, He is too powerful and wonderful for that. I only wish that you would be more careful in the way you speak of Him, but I guess that has to start with you believing in Him.

I would recommend you find another word in which to compare fear to. Reverence and respect, I would agree on. But reverence and fear? Now your just setting yourself up for a blind faith....

Originally posted by debbiejo
No, I'm not speaking of myself....Lost as in they've wasted their lives trying to please the inappeasable god for fear of hell and demons and eternal suffering. Going through anguish about their every action. Was I good enough? We're my thoughts right? Did I remember to ask forgiveness for this action? They spend their whole life HOPING they did it all right and crossed every "T". Because if not, they're damned. Meanwhile, they've missed out on living.

All for a myth.


Or they could be like, "Yo-yo-yo, Jesus, my home dog, I axed you in my heart, right?"

And then Jesus would be like, "What? Was that English? Or some foreign dialect of Hebrew?"

And then someone would translate and Jesus would say, "Oh, yeah, you did. Let me check--" he opens up a massive book and flips it open--"Yep, your name's right here in the Book of Life."

"Sweet, G."

Originally posted by MicahLynn
I will give you one guarantee: you were never a Christian. If you were, you would never change from it. You don't know the Truth and then decide to believe the lies. You never truly knew God and the gift of His Son Jesus, for if you had you would be so grateful and would never consider turning away from Him. I understand that all people fail and stumble and fall, but I truly believe that once you really know Christ there is no going back to the way things were. Once He transforms your life, you don't want to go back to the way things were without Him. And, by the way, the Bible says that even satan and his demons know the Word and tremble. Even satan quoted it to Jesus in the wilderness. So, knowing the Bible doesn't make you a Christian. It is so much deeper than that. I'm not even going to bother speaking on the Mormon topic.

I am so sorry that you are filled with hate.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I am so sorry that you are filled with hate.

More like ignorance...

Originally posted by FeceMan
Or they could be like, "Yo-yo-yo, Jesus, my home dog, I axed you in my heart, right?"
pimp.......I knew Jesus be black....We be commin out the ghetto to da hoooood, where angels be waitin..!!!

Originally posted by FeceMan
It is better to be a blind devotee with absolute conviction than a wishy-washy follower made out of habit.

Is it now...........

ahh the irony in that piece.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I am so sorry that you are filled with hate.

In order for you to have gotten hate out of the words I wrote, you must not have read them at all. I'm just being honest. If I were full of hate, I wouldn't bother to show you the truth. I wouldn't care. But here I am, bothering and caring. Though you might not care, and it probably won't bother you if I were to quit, I'll keep on keeping on.

Originally posted by soleran30
Is it now...........

ahh the irony in that piece.

Well considering childeran are "blind devotee with absolute conviction"

Didn't Jesus say we must enter the kindgom of God like children. Ah yes, Mark 10:13-16

Originally posted by MicahLynn
In order for you to have gotten hate out of the words I wrote, you must not have read them at all. I'm just being honest. If I were full of hate, I wouldn't bother to show you the truth. I wouldn't care. But here I am, bothering and caring. Though you might not care, and it probably won't bother you if I were to quit, I'll keep on keeping on.

Draw you attention to me for a sec, as I try to point out the follwoing flaws in your so called truth. You believe that in order for one to merit heaven (and essentially happiness), they must believe in God/Jesus, and do good works. However, you would be sadly mistaken. Just like truth takes many forms, so can ones beliefs. And therefore, you should take it like the Buddist do (now that is irony):

Be tolerant of other religions, as long as they are founded on Love.

Originally posted by debbiejo
No, I'm not speaking of myself....Lost as in they've wasted their lives trying to please the inappeasable god for fear of hell and demons and eternal suffering. Going through anguish about their every action. Was I good enough? We're my thoughts right? Did I remember to ask forgiveness for this action? They spend their whole life HOPING they did it all right and crossed every "T". Because if not, they're damned. Meanwhile, they've missed out on living.

All for a myth.

My life was never worth living without God. For one, I wouldn't even be here if it weren't for Him. Secondly, once I allowed Him to save me from my sins, I could truly live. I have more joy and peace than most people will ever know. I've been able to do so many wonderful things in my life: I've been privileged to work in two orphanages in the Dominican Republic, I get to minister to the homeless ever Wednesday night, I have a "little sister" that I get to mentor, I've gotten to teach children the Truth in churches and schools and camps and Vacation Bible Schools since I was in Middle School. I have a wonderful family and have always enjoyed just spending time with them. I've gotten to travel to different places and see the fingerprints of God. I get to go to Boston in March to spread the Truth to fellow college students. I moved from Florida to Tennessee to learn more about the Truth of the Bible. All this, and I am only 20. Have no fear, for I am truly living. Not a day goes by without my thinking, "Wow! I was blessed to live another day, and to enjoy every moment of it." I'm not afraid of hell or demons or satan, for I have God on my side. The only thing I'm afraid of is life without God, and that is something I don't even have to worry about.

Originally posted by AOR
Draw you attention to me for a sec, as I try to point out the follwoing flaws in your so called truth. You believe that in order for one to merit heaven (and essentially happiness), they must believe in God/Jesus, and do good works. However, you would be sadly mistaken. Just like truth takes many forms, so can ones beliefs. And therefore, you should take it like the Buddist do (now that is irony):

Be tolerant of other religions, as long as they are founded on Love.

You've gotten my attention. I don't appreciate being called ignorant, for I'll never call you that. I just think you are confused, not stupid or even ignorant for that matter. There is only One Truth: Jesus Christ. He is the only Way to Salvation and eternal life. But, salvation is so much more than meriting heavne, it is about getting to know the God that loved us enough to send His Son after we messed up so many times.

Also, how could there be more than one truth? Are you one of those postmodernists that believe everything is truth? Atman is Brahman? If that were true, what would be false? That would mean that nothing is wrong or bad or evil. That would mean it is okay to murder and steal and commit adultery. But, those things are bad and believing they are okay is wrong. Truth doesn't take many forms, for Truth is simply that: Truth.

Originally posted by MicahLynn
You've gotten my attention. I don't appreciate being called ignorant, for I'll never call you that. I just think you are confused, not stupid or even ignorant for that matter. There is only One Truth: Jesus Christ. He is the only Way to Salvation and eternal life. But, salvation is so much more than meriting heavne, it is about getting to know the God that loved us enough to send His Son after we messed up so many times.

Also, how could there be more than one truth? Are you one of those postmodernists that believe everything is truth? Atman is Brahman? If that were true, what would be false? That would mean that nothing is wrong or bad or evil. That would mean it is okay to murder and steal and commit adultery. But, those things are bad and believing they are okay is wrong. Truth doesn't take many forms, for Truth is simply that: Truth.

Tell me, do you believe that Allah is the same as your God?

And no, I'm Catholic...