Would You Honestly Have Believed In Your Relegion Today If Your Parent/society Hadnt

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Why are we back on that topic? 😕

If there was no religion....ANY religion...what would you believe in? What would you follow?

Me, spiritual all the way. My faith comes from within me. It's not about the teachings that I've been taught...though there are some really cool ones in the LDS religion. My faith comes from a knowledge of something greater out there...something I've experienced first hand, not something I learned from a book or a class.

By the way...there is this really awesome book. It's spiritual, but it's not like...hmm....best description...it's about the energy that created life and how we can manipulate it and use it to become more enlightened beings.

Uhm....Amazon.com link for you....😄

The Celestine Prophecy

really...a great book. I've read the first one...and most of the second one...and I could hardly put them down. No, they aren't Mormon anything. Cuz I'm sure someone reading this is wondering. There are a lot of truths in these books...mostly just fun things to try. It's a novel...but a really spiritual one. 🙂

If there was no religion....ANY religion...what would you believe in? What would you follow?
as I do today, myself

Originally posted by Kella

By the way...there is this really awesome book. It's spiritual, but it's not like...hmm....best description...it's about the energy that created life and how we can manipulate it and use it to become more enlightened beings.

Uhm....Amazon.com link for you....😄

Another one I though was good that I did pick up was "Converstions with god, an uncommon dialog"....This is not a "Christian type booK"URL= http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0446671002/sr=8-1/qid=1140585208/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-7219785-6259338?%5Fencoding=UTF8]The Celestine Prophecy[/URL]

really...a great book. I've read the first one...and most of the second one...and I could hardly put them down. No, they aren't Mormon anything. Cuz I'm sure someone reading this is wondering. There are a lot of truths in these books...mostly just fun things to try. It's a novel...but a really spiritual one. 🙂

That's a very popular book....I've heard a lot about it, though haven't picked it up myself...I did research it a little on the net though.......Different ideas in there... ✅

Another good book that I did pick up was "Conversations with god, an uncommon dialog"....It is not a Christian book....But very good and goes with some sciences well.

I may just check that out.

I really like the Celestine Prophecy. I found it by accident, but really got into it. The whole giving and recieving energy from plants and people....I totally relate. I can even do that.

🙂

Originally posted by Kella
I may just check that out.

I really like the Celestine Prophecy. I found it by accident, but really got into it. The whole giving and recieving energy from plants and people....I totally relate. I can even do that.

🙂

Me too..........I've done it....Even taking a type of class in that right now..........Many people that don't understand the properties of it might think it's evil, but it's just the way things work... ✅

"Conversations with God" talks about many of the same things...energy and things.....and how they inter react with everything else.....

I think that's so old-fashioned. Everything is evil because they don't understand.

Simple...to me...as a Christian...God created everything in the world, I am part of the world, other people are part of the world, plants are living parts of the world as well, the Earth itself is a living entity. So why can't we all be connected by one force? Energy, spirituality...whatever you want to call it?

I don't deny God, but I embrace that I'm part of His creation...and I embrace His creation as a part of me.

See...not evil...simple.

Originally posted by Kella
I think that's so old-fashioned. Everything is evil because they don't understand.

Simple...to me...as a Christian...God created everything in the world, I am part of the world, other people are part of the world, plants are living parts of the world as well, the Earth itself is a living entity. So why can't we all be connected by one force? Energy, spirituality...whatever you want to call it?

I don't deny God, but I embrace that I'm part of His creation...and I embrace His creation as a part of me.

See...not evil...simple.

Exactly....I believe we don't yet have all the answers on things, though I was raised Pentecostal where everything is evil...lots of dogma.....but I believe everything is also connected, it's just the way it works....More and more quantum sciences are starting to acknowledge this.....and with all the many studies, it even goes into some metaphysical type things......But god is in or apart of all things..not a person though..At least not the one in the bible for me..............imo

NOT EVIL!!......yep

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
So, you have not read many of my posts. The reason that Jesus can not be the Messiah is because the Messiah must be human. Jesus is considered to be divine and therefore disqualified. That is the modern view of Jesus by the Jews. However, I do believe that Jesus was the Messiah for he was not divine and we now live in the kingdom of god.

Jesus was fully God and fully man... That's part of the miracle of it all.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yes, that is what I am getting at. 😛 I wish people would live for now and here instead of some dead guy who died along time ago.

Yes, Jesus died, but on the third day, He rose from the dead. Satan thought he won, but he was wrong. After all, you can't keep a good man down.

Originally posted by ushomefree
I didn't realize that I was. I thought we were having a discussion here. Sorry.

You aren't wasting your time. I am proud to have a fellow believer doing all that he can to save the lost. Continue to do as God asks you to, and you will never regret it. It is good to be able to answer peoples questions; it makes you stronger in your own faith. Thank you, and don't let them get you down.

Originally posted by MicahLynn
Yes, Jesus died, but on the third day, He rose from the dead. Satan thought he won, but he was wrong. After all, you can't keep a good man down.

Satan is a Myth and not real. All things have good and evil in them including God.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You can't convert me, and good works will not get you into heaven, only by grace can you enter heaven.

You contradict yourself so much! One minute you say you are Buddhist, the next you are quoting what you think is scripture. No, you can't get to heaven by works, but once you are saved from sin and transformed, you start doing good works because they are the right thing to do. You no longer go living in the sin that you were saved from. I encourage you to decide what you really believe and stop discouraging people that believe the Truth.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Satan is a Myth and not real. All things have good and evil in them including God.

I'd be careful saying things like that. Really.

Originally posted by MicahLynn
You contradict yourself so much! One minute you say you are Buddhist, the next you are quoting what you think is scripture. No, you can't get to heaven by works, but once you are saved from sin and transformed, you start doing good works because they are the right thing to do. You no longer go living in the sin that you were saved from. I encourage you to decide what you really believe and stop discouraging people that believe the Truth.

Your truth is a myth. I try to speak to you in words that you will understand. Over 20 years ago I was a Christian so I know the bible well, but it has been a long time so I don't always get my scriptures right. Your encouragement is appreciated, but I know what you are really saying. You should learn something from the Mormons.

Originally posted by MicahLynn
You contradict yourself so much! One minute you say you are Buddhist, the next you are quoting what you think is scripture. No, you can't get to heaven by works, but once you are saved from sin and transformed, you start doing good works because they are the right thing to do. You no longer go living in the sin that you were saved from. I encourage you to decide what you really believe and stop discouraging people that believe the Truth.

Buddism does not deny the believer to indulge himself/herself in the knowledge of other faiths as long as the faith promotes Love. Therefore he is in his right to quote what he believes and as a Christian (assuming that's what you are) you have to be tolerant and open minded to the suggestion.

Second: work alone doesn't save, but unison with faith. That doesn't mean that without faith you can't do good works.

Third: Perhaps you need to learn that the "Truth" does not take form in one thing, and one thing alone. There is truth found in all things, and if you deny that than you deny Truth. From which you shouldn't be doing considering your faith is based on Love and growing knowledge towards a God. And besides if your not prepared to face the barrages of flaw in your faith, than perhaps you shouldn't be believing...

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Your truth is a myth. I try to speak to you in words that you will understand. Over 20 years ago I was a Christian so I know the bible well, but it has been a long time so I don't always get my scriptures right. Your encouragement is appreciated, but I know what you are really saying. You should learn something from the Mormons.

Sounds more like Lutheran to me...

Originally posted by AOR
...And besides if your not prepared to face the barrages of flaw in your faith, than perhaps you shouldn't be believing...

I do agree, week faith is not worth having.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I do agree, week faith is not worth having.

clap yes the Buddist and the Catholic agree 😄 I feel a little more complete...

Re: Would You Honestly Have Believed In Your Relegion Today If Your Parent/society Hadnt

Originally posted by leonheartmm
in all HONESTY, would ANY1 of the people here believe in the relegion {mostly organized relegion} if their parents or society hadnt brought them up in it, or if they hadnt spent most of their time around people with that point of view?

I just thought I'd say that I actually believe in/joined a religion that my family/friends/co-workers were all opposed to. The area where I live isn't in favor of the church that I joined. So I would say that it is possible to fully and whole-heartedly believe in a religion that you havn't been raised around.

that's just my two cents.

Originally posted by MicahLynn
You aren't wasting your time. I am proud to have a fellow believer doing all that he can to save the lost.
Lost!...Whose to say I'm lost, maybe it's you that are lost. Lost people many times don't even know they are lost until it's too late because they've wasted so much time thinking they were on the right path.

Originally posted by MicahLynn
[B]I'd be careful saying things like that. Really.
This comes from someone who is lost....Because Satan is a myth.