Dr. Strange vs Thor

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Sorry, but thats what I got outa your arguments. If not, my bad.

I don't think Strange's weather manipulation powers are on par with Thor's. They may be powerful, but Thor's weather manipulation powers are amazing.

Thor can increase the lightning effectiveness Ten thousand folds. An excellent example would be when Thor defeated Prime by increasing single lightning bolt a hundred folds, and proceeded by blast him with it (Remember that just a single lightning bolt is equivalent to 15,000,000 volts of electricity and could travel 100 million feet a second). However, the most devastating lightning attack ever conceived by Thor is one that involves the "purest of lightning". In other words, a bolt of "Purest of Lightning"; which is a Magical bolt that emanates From Thor's hammer- creates a chain reaction of pure energy causing the ground surrounding the blast to erupt like a living volcano; thus, producing a Giant Crater along with a Holocaust of White-Hot Lava. In addition, Mjolnir can tap into just about any Elemental Phenomenon in the Cosmos, like, for example, the limitless energy of a Maelstrom. Thor tapped in and used that energy as a Cosmic weapon. A Celestial Maelstrom can literally drag large Meteors, or Asteroids around at amazing Speeds, somewhat like a hurricanes or Tornado, but on a cosmic scale. Mjolnir can also create Thunderstorms, Tidal Waves, and exploding Volcanoes on a Planetary scale. For instance, Thor used a gust of wind, or an powerful tornado, that he literally forced against Surtur, causing Surtur to say: "NEVER HAVE I FELT SUCH FORCE!".

So to say Strange's weather manipulation skills are greater than Thors is a bold statement.

Thor's speed has never been given a limit, but the fastest he's been clocked moving is 3x the speed of light.

He has weather control on par with nearly any god of weather. Hell, he channels power directly from skyfathers of weather. A hammerless Thor isn't as adept at weather control as Strange. Simple as that. Lightening won't be a factor in this fight.

As for speed, 3xlightspeed isn't Thor's highest, but it's all flying speed. He doesn't have lightspeed reflexes. Strange doesn't either but he does have pre-cog, Spiderman said it's equal to his own.

Verbal ownage from Strange against Thor.

Strange to Thor: "Tell you what, I'll handle the "hocus pockus" and you just stick to hitting people with your hammer. How does that sound?"

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Originally posted by long pig
Again, you're not giving Strange credit for his...INSANE amount of powersets.

He has weather control on par with nearly any god of weather. Hell, he channels power directly from skyfathers of weather. A hammerless Thor isn't as adept at weather control as Strange. Simple as that. Lightening won't be a factor in this fight.

As for speed, 3xlightspeed isn't Thor's highest, but it's all flying speed. He doesn't have lightspeed reflexes. Strange doesn't either but he does have pre-cog, Spiderman said it's equal to his own.

Verbal ownage from Strange against Thor.

Strange to Thor: "Tell you what, I'll handle the "hocus pockus" and you just stick to hitting people with your hammer. How does that sound?"

Yes Strange has a massive power set, but so does Thor.

Meh, Over the years Thor's display of weather manipulation is superior to Doc's. It may not be much greater, but I believe it's clear cut that Thor's is the superior of the two when it comes to weather.

I do believe Thor's reflexes are greater than Spider Man's.

Considering Thor doesn't directly use spells, and his magic is channelled through Mjolnir, I don't view that as ownage at all.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Yes Strange has a massive power set, but so does Thor.

Meh, Over the years Thor's display of weather manipulation is superior to Doc's. It may not be much greater, but I believe it's clear cut that Thor's is the superior of the two when it comes to weather.

I do believe Thor's reflexes are greater than Spider Man's.

Considering Thor doesn't directly use spells, and his magic is channelled through Mjolnir, I don't view that as ownage at all.

Strange could transmute Thor into jelly and be done with it. Thor CAN NOT break Strange's shields. He can't even kill Strange.

Strange is older, smarter and outclasses him in magic in nearly every way. Thor has flat out admitted that he can't fight Strange's magic when Strange basically dismissed him and sent him flying away.

Thor is good, but Strange is better.

Is this ownage enough?
Stealing his hammer.

edit.

i think this is a fight that could go either way,at times in the past both have been portrayed as probably being more powerful than the other,all i know is in the silver era thor was above strange but nowadays it could go either way.

strange resists the tribunal, strange beats death twice, strange makes galactus scream n tremble, strange beats in betweener twice, strange shows more power than zom, cyttorak, shuma gorath etc. what exactly is so hard to understand here. strange WINS. not a fight.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
strange resists the tribunal, strange beats death twice, strange makes galactus scream n tremble, strange beats in betweener twice, strange shows more power than zom, cyttorak, shuma gorath etc. what exactly is so hard to understand here. strange WINS. not a fight.

now THIS is exactly my problem with dr strange on the forum . . .

doh

Can't Strange simply transmute Thor and be done with it?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Can't Strange simply transmute Thor and be done with it?

Thor could do the same, difference being that Thor doesn't use spells.

Originally posted by long pig
I disagree. Strange channels weather powers from people who are equal to Odin..DIRECTLY. Strange is at the very, very least, equal to Thor in weather manipulation.
Dude, Strange has stolen Thor's hammer before with a single spell, he could do it again and simply pick it up and have Thor's power.

Strange could transmute Thor into jelly and be done with it. Thor CAN NOT break Strange's shields. He can't even kill Strange.

Strange is older, smarter and outclasses him in magic in nearly every way. Thor has flat out admitted that he can't fight Strange's magic when Strange basically dismissed him and sent him flying away.

Thor is good, but Strange is better.

Doesn't matter who or where Strange channeld his weather manipualtion skills if his feat don't stack up to Thor's.

I dislike when people compare just anybody to Odin, especially when there feats don't stack up.

Doesn't matter how many times Strange takes Mjolnir if Thor can simply will it back. Basically it would be useless to take a weapon that returns to it's master at will.

when has Strange ever lifted Mjolnir?

Thor can also transmute Strange into Jelly, and be done with it. I'm positive Strange can't break Thor's shields, and Thor doesn't need to break Stranges shield if he can simply have Mjolnir phase through them.

How can he not kill Strange if he or Loki already has? as stated before, in Thor v2 #72 Strange and gang challenged Thor and Loki, and all ended up dead.

Older?

Smarter, ya I agree.

Outclasses him? na.

In a no prep situation Stalemate 5/5.

Originally posted by long pig
I disagree. Strange channels weather powers from people who are equal to Odin..DIRECTLY. Strange is at the very, very least, equal to Thor in weather manipulation.
Dude, Strange has stolen Thor's hammer before with a single spell, he could do it again and simply pick it up and have Thor's power.

Strange could transmute Thor into jelly and be done with it. Thor CAN NOT break Strange's shields. He can't even kill Strange.

Strange is older, smarter and outclasses him in magic in nearly every way. Thor has flat out admitted that he can't fight Strange's magic when Strange basically dismissed him and sent him flying away.

Thor is good, but Strange is better.

I gotta correct you he is not older Thor has lived for thousands of years.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Thor can also transmute Strange into Jelly, and be done with it. I'm positive Strange can't break Thor's shields, and Thor doesn't need to break Stranges shield if he can simply have Mjolnir phase through them.

How can he not kill Strange if he or Loki already has? as stated before, in Thor v2 #72 Strange and gang challenged Thor and Loki, and all ended up dead.

Do you happen to have scans where Thor makes Mjolnir phase something or any pictures related to the Loki and Thor vs Strange and the gang? And what is the gang?

Or simply tell if the scans already are in this thread...

Originally posted by long pig
Because he's been around for 5000+ years. He doesn't age and can't actually die unless he wants it via a bond with none other than Eternity.

Unlike Thor, Strange is a true immortal.

I keep reading in these posts, Well if Strange does This and Thor does That, or if Strange tries That and Thor tries This: strike, counter; strike, counter...seems like this would come down to who has more energy. Who can generate more megawattage? All else being equal, the guy with the most energy wins.

Originally posted by Tshern
I'm not a Strange expert, but he was a surgeon before he became the Sorcerer Supreme, right? Somehow I don't think there were too many surgeons running around the globe 5 millennia ago.

He traveled to a different dimension and fought for 5000 years, but it was practically no time in our dimension.

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And Thor can absorb energy and turn it back on its wielder. He's also pulled a ridiculous number of tricks out of Mjolnir at one point or another, including hurting someone who was intangible, time manipulation, some low-level matter manip, etc.

I honestly give this to Thor. Strange might have a higher upper limit, but Thor's a bad matchup for him.

Respect Thor yall...

Originally posted by Tshern
Do you happen to have scans where Thor makes Mjolnir phase something or any pictures related to the Loki and Thor vs Strange and the gang? And what is the gang?

Or simply tell if the scans already are in this thread...

I can look, but I can remember it was in a fight against Kang.

The pictures are in the Thor respect thread, and the gang included Hulk, Thing, Doc Strange, The Vision, Wolverine, Captain America, Balder, Scarlet Witch, and Quicksilver. They ambushed Thor while he was caring for his son Magni, Thor with one arm, and no odinower along with Loki(who only killed The Vision, Wanda, and Quicksilver) killed them all. It was never made clear who Doc Strange was killed by, but it's clear that it was either Thor or Loki who did so.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Respect Thor yall...