Originally posted by golem370Right, and as I've informed you through the course of this thread, Apokalips has some of the best tech in the universe. Tech linked to part of God itself that can do nearly anything.
Wouldn't happen, and wouldn't matter anyways, he can make ANYTHING his new form as shown in the scans, and he can take over any tech..You just saw scans of him taking over the Apokolips tech, I'm not sure you realise it or not, but Apokolips is an extension of Darkseid himself.
He's way far out of Apocs league.
And Cyborg Superman still beats Apoc and your arugment is still going nowhere.
Seriously have you read this thread?
Go back to the top and read down it.
Originally posted by golem370
You haven't proven anything ether your saying the same damn thing I am saying one's tech is more advanced then the other
You said that in the quote above.
Now, I'm saying, you can't prove it's more adanced, I said this immediately after you made the claim, and even gave examples of Apokolips' tech, which outshined all of your examples..
And I've also been hinting to you, quite heavily with such lines as " And Cyborg Superman still beats Apoc" that it's irrelivent either way. Because the arguement isn't about how powerful the Celestials are, or Darkseid is, or how old they are.
Because the arguement is whether or not Cyborg Superman stomps out Apoc, and he does it no matter how many side-tracked arguements you propose [which I also hinted at earlier,speaking of your tangent arguements..].
Originally posted by golem370Golem all Junati is saying is that Cyboirg Supes has taken over tech that is very advanced created by a person who was Full powered Galctus level.
No he doesn't IMO
Originally posted by newjak86Finally!!
Golem all Junati is saying is that Cyboirg Supes has taken over tech that is very advanced created by a person who was Full powered Galctus level.
Therefore he could most likely take over Apoc's suit if he wanted to which he could easily.
Apoc is also generally over hyped and if it was just striaght up brawl Cyborg Supes still wins becuase apoc has been beaten by namor with a table. 😛
Cyborg Supes is in another league my friend basically he is possibly one of the toughest none cosmic or god level villians in existence and since Apoc always flaunts his Celestial Tech it makes it even easier for Cyborg Supes to destroy him.
Have you been reading this? It's rediculous.
Let make a comparison
Apocalypse vs Cyborg Superman
Incalculable Strength Incalculable Strength
Godlike stamina Godlike Stamina
Demi Godlike regenerative Durability Godlike Durability
Metahuman reflexes Superhuman reflexes
Metahuman agility Superhuman agility
Extraordinary Genius Extraordinary Genius
Shape & Mass Changing Shape & Mass Changing
Teleportation
Originally posted by golem370"Look, Apoc couldn't conquer the X Men succesfully.
Let make a comparisonApocalypse vs Cyborg Superman
Incalculable Strength Incalculable Strength
Godlike stamina Godlike Stamina
Demi Godlike regenerative Durability Godlike Durability
Metahuman reflexes Superhuman reflexes
Metahuman agility Superhuman agility
Extraordinary Genius Extraordinary Genius
Shape & Mass Changing Shape & Mass Changing
Teleportation
This should be your indicator.
It's two different levels."
Originally posted by golem370
All I have to say Age of Apocalypse
Originally posted by golem370
I think he has just as much chance of beating Cyborg and Cyborg has of beating him. Also Celestials tech 😉
WTH is this supposed to prove?
Do you get a kick out of losing mismatched online bio battles.
Both Marvel and DC fans agree that Apocalypse loses and you know how OFTEN they agree on anything. 🙂
Despite being massively powerful- able to melt uru with their energies and erasing themselves from humanity's memories- the Celestials rely upon technology for some of their tricks. This includes space vessels for the Hosts- though Celestials are often seeing in "schools", as seen at the top of this page. The ancient mutant Apocalypse once possessed a Celestial Ship, which he re-programmed to serve him. It is not known when or how he obtained "Ship".
During their "Host" missions, the Celestials have been observed with certain scientific equipment. This includes the staff wielded by Eson, though it's purpose is not known. Gammenon has used a "Gather-Rod", with which he collects samples from planets by re-shaping them into the red blocks on the tip of the Rod. The Rod samples are then placed within the Analyzer, a scanning tool used by Jemiah. Only the Celestials' technology can restore what has been re-shaped by the Rod- much to the dismay of a trio of S.H.I.E.L.D. agents!
Probably the most famous Celestial device is "the Weapon", a large Celestial-size gun that was used to slay the Golden Celestial after he turned against the Host. For some reason, the Celestials did not take this device with them, but let the Eternals handle its imprisonment. When the device was fired, and threatened to destroy the world, the Celestial Ziran took care of the situation. Of course, another Galactus connection suggests itself- is "the Weapon" related to the famed Ultimate Nullifier?
A Deviant expedition to the Celestial Mothership during the 4th Host discovered onboard a "crystal key", some source of great power. The readings they took were duplicated by Deviants on earth, and Ghaur used the Crystal Key to open the Vial containing the essence of the Dreaming Celestial. It is not known what purpose the original "key" may have had, beyond a power source.
Lastly, the Celestials have provided advanced technology to those who have accompanied them in travel- such as the vessels used by the Brethren and the Young Gods. Perhaps Apocalypse's "Ship", which is far too small for a Celestial, was previously used by the Celestials' allies.
A picture is worth a 1,000 words. Let's try this again.
This kind of tech was a joke for Borg to take over...
Oh, and he retains the data from any tech he's assimilated so it's plausible he could rebuild that weapon that Orion is using...
Seeing that this is just Apocalypse though, no reason to even explore THAT scenario...
Originally posted by golem370
Despite being massively powerful- able to melt uru with their energies and erasing themselves from humanity's memories- the Celestials rely upon technology for some of their tricks. This includes space vessels for the Hosts- though Celestials are often seeing in "schools", as seen at the top of this page. The ancient mutant Apocalypse once possessed a Celestial Ship, which he re-programmed to serve him. It is not known when or how he obtained "Ship".During their "Host" missions, the Celestials have been observed with certain scientific equipment. This includes the staff wielded by Eson, though it's purpose is not known. Gammenon has used a "Gather-Rod", with which he collects samples from planets by re-shaping them into the red blocks on the tip of the Rod. The Rod samples are then placed within the Analyzer, a scanning tool used by Jemiah. Only the Celestials' technology can restore what has been re-shaped by the Rod- much to the dismay of a trio of S.H.I.E.L.D. agents!
Probably the most famous Celestial device is "the Weapon", a large Celestial-size gun that was used to slay the Golden Celestial after he turned against the Host. For some reason, the Celestials did not take this device with them, but let the Eternals handle its imprisonment. When the device was fired, and threatened to destroy the world, the Celestial Ziran took care of the situation. Of course, another Galactus connection suggests itself- is "the Weapon" related to the famed Ultimate Nullifier?
A Deviant expedition to the Celestial Mothership during the 4th Host discovered onboard a "crystal key", some source of great power. The readings they took were duplicated by Deviants on earth, and Ghaur used the Crystal Key to open the Vial containing the essence of the Dreaming Celestial. It is not known what purpose the original "key" may have had, beyond a power source.
Lastly, the Celestials have provided advanced technology to those who have accompanied them in travel- such as the vessels used by the Brethren and the Young Gods. Perhaps Apocalypse's "Ship", which is far too small for a Celestial, was previously used by the Celestials' allies.
the biggest problem with your argument is that you are simply saying that apoc has better tech and wins
however, the better tech that apoc has access to, the more of an advantage cyborg has. This would be a closer fight if Apoc fought him pre-celestial tech
Cyborg can take over tech way beyond what apoc has. Litterally, he would use all of these things mentioned in your argument against apoc
i like apoc WAY more than Cyborg, I think he is one of the coolest bad guys, but his strengths in this case are the ONE thing that Cyborg is increadably good at exploiting
