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Numan, do you have any Proof of that? I cant think of anything that those Jedi/ Sith have done that comes close to even what Kun has done by himself, let alone WITH Sidious. Talk about credentials of WTFpwnage between those two.
Exar was absurdly powerful and so was DE Sidious, both are so powerful it seems almost stupid. The duo takes this no problem.
🤨 "Neither did anything as great as Revan did in the Star Forge"
Are you kidding me? Revan killed some dark jedi, Wow...
Sure he was the greatest of his time. Kun was the greatest of his time, and Sidious was the greatest of his time...
Sidious destroyed the Jedi and took over the galaxy. And in DE Sidious was insanely powerful. He could control black holes for god sake.
And Kun, it in essence took the whole Jedi order to 'beat' him (though they didnt actually beat him)
And BOTH could separate themselves from dying by removing their consciousness from their bodies (which is how Sidious survived ROTJ) and which is how Kun was alive to torment Luke on Yavin.
Kun and Sidious have more accomplishments then I could think of off the top of my head alone. Together, I would argue that their accomplishments rival any other two people in the SW galaxy.
The controlling black holes thing was apparantly done by other people too,weak people from what I heard. Sidious destroying the Jedi is also something he didn't do through his fighting skill it doesn't matter at all.
And Kreia did nothing impressive? She destroyed three Jedi masters with a wave of her hand, they just died the entire force ripped from their body's.
Revan did rule over a shit load of Sith was the greatest lightsaber duellist in his era, and possibly one of the bests ever.
The exile always was a mediocere Jedi but then he started to absorb power from people, I have no idea if its cannon that he kept his power or that he lost it again, but if its the first he's also pretty damn powerful.
That all being said the Duo takes them, although I don't see this as an easy fight, but Kreia will die against the lightsaber furry that is Exar Kun. The exile will lose in seconds from either Kun or DE Sidious Revan would stand a chance against either one of them in a lightsaber fight possibly take them he would at the very least take Sidious. Still the power of those two combined would take the trio.
Originally posted by Numan
Neither did anything as great as Revan did in the Star Forge. The amount of dark jedi he killed was incredible. He was by far the greatest in his time.
Numan this isn't a battle of accomplishments, it's a versus forum.. We're talking about power, in which Kun and Sidious have more than the trio. Revan would get it if it were in terms of accomplishments.
It is not canon that Revan killed anyone on board the star forge except Malak. Don't accept his ridiculous argument based on gameplay. Gameplay is not canon! Only storyline is.
And Kreia did nothing impressive? She destroyed three Jedi masters with a wave of her hand, they just died the entire force ripped from their body's.
And Kun killed a greater, millenia-old Jedi with a wave of his. It's not terribly impressive in the grand scheme of things when you consider that, while they were the top Jedi of their time, they were the top Jedi of an order that had the cream of its ancient Jedi crop brutally murdered 40 years before.
Revan did rule over a shit load of Sith was the greatest lightsaber duellist in his era, and possibly one of the bests ever.
No, Revan ruled over a shitload of wannabes. Any instances of them using Sith magic? How about alchemy?
Oh? What's that? They're essentially a bunch of dark Jedi taking the name "Sith" to frighten the galaxy?
Revan would stand a chance against either one of them in a lightsaber fight possibly take them he would at the very least take Sidious.
Nonsense. Prove that Revan is a lightsaber great on that level. DE Sidious may not be on Kun's level, but he's way better than Revan.
And Kun killed a greater, millenia-old Jedi with a wave of his. It's not terribly impressive in the grand scheme of things when you consider that, while they were the top Jedi of their time, they were the top Jedi of an order that had the cream of its ancient Jedi crop brutally murdered 40 years before.
I'll remmeber that killing Jedi with a wave of their hand isn't terribly impressive because even though they were the most powerful of the order, even though some of them lived in the time of Exar Kun, and even though you have no real evidence saying that the Order weakened that much, it just wasn't impressive.
No, Revan ruled over a shitload of wannabes. Any instances of them using Sith magic? How about alchemy?Oh? What's that? They're essentially a bunch of dark Jedi taking the name "Sith" to frighten the galaxy?
They still have the title Sith though, just like Vader did like Dooku did... Would you call them Dark Jedi? And I have no idea if they ever used things like that. Malak the most powerful of them used technology to make himself more powerful and he wasn't the smartest person out there.
Nonsense. Prove that Revan is a lightsaber great on that level. DE Sidious may not be on Kun's level, but he's way better than Revan.
DE Sidious lost in a lightsaber fight from Luke... Luke who still wasn't a lightsaber master.
Revan on the other hand is described as a lightsaber master, he defeated a lightsaber prodigy who was more powerful then ever before in that current form, and he had Echani pre-cog that like it or not, was better then that of a Jedi. It let them learn how other people fought, and made them know what the person was going to do before he did it and probably even thought of it.
I haven't read the Sith Wars yet, but what exactly does Kun do to URr with the wave of his hand, nobody's been specific.
I've posted this scan numerous times, many of which were direct responses to you.
I'll remmeber that killing Jedi with a wave of their hand isn't terribly impressive because even though they were the most powerful of the order, even though some of them lived in the time of Exar Kun, and even though you have no real evidence saying that the Order weakened that much, it just wasn't impressive.
I'll remember that you think these masters were on the level of the truly ancient and powerful masters Kun had assassinated 40 years earlier despite the fact that these masters are in their late sixties at the most and thus maybe were Jedi Knights when Exar Kun was alive, as well as the fact that Ossus was obliterated at that time and therefore they had no access to the secrets stored there, the vast majority of which were lost.
Sorry. KOTOR-era masters are vastly inferior to those of TSW and other incarnations of TOTJ. This is a direct result of Kun's actions.
They still have the title Sith though, just like Vader did like Dooku did... Would you call them Dark Jedi? And I have no idea if they ever used things like that. Malak the most powerful of them used technology to make himself more powerful and he wasn't the smartest person out there.
Calling Vader and Dooku Sith is arguable but they have more legitimacy than Revan and his faux Sith, given that, for them, there was a clear line of succession going all the way back to Ruusan and earlier.
And what kind of technology did Malak use to make himself more powerful? I hope you realize that the Star Forge is not a Sith device.
DE Sidious lost in a lightsaber fight from Luke... Luke who still wasn't a lightsaber master.
But he is the same Sidious as ROTS Sidious, except improved. He's no slouch with the lightsaber, but I never said he was the best.
Revan on the other hand is described as a lightsaber master, he defeated a lightsaber prodigy who was more powerful then ever before in that current form, and he had Echani pre-cog that like it or not, was better then that of a Jedi. It let them learn how other people fought, and made them know what the person was going to do before he did it and probably even thought of it.
Where is Revan described as a lightsaber master?
Where is it said that Revan used only the lightsaber to defeat Malak (or, even, that he used one at all)?
I like how you're bringing up the ridiculous and stupid precognition point again, ignoring the fact that any trained Force user worth a damn has precognition as well. Untrained ones even had it (Anakin).
