Scenes that should have remained.

I've seen it four times in the theatres, in the last three weeks .... haven't been posting very regularly, cause I got a bit busy of late.

Good as the movie was, it was not a slam dunk ... and I feel a few scenes that ended up on the cutting room floor, should have been left in the movie, and that would have made it even better ...

( I've taken all the following from Tf.net )

1. Don't Talk Back
Anakin had more of a conflict with Obi-Wan, including a shot featuring the line, "I've heard this lesson before."

2. The Lost 20
Jocasta Nu (the Jedi archivist) tells Obi-Wan of the 20 Lost Jedi and about the "great" Count Dooku at length in the scene where he is looking for clues in his adventure. A bust of Dooku can be seen.

3. Explaining the Lost Jedi
Yoda and Mace discuss the lost Jedi who abandon the Order with Obi-Wan. Anakin's Warning Signs
Mace converses with Obi-wan on the platform before and after Obi-1 get's in his Starfighter. Obi-Wan tells Mace of his aprehensions of Anakin taking Padme back to Naboo and he feels a disturbance in Anakin's feelings. You might have seen this shot in the SW Insider magazine.

4. More Remorse for Tusken Slaughter
There was more to the extended "work shop" scene with Annie and Padme after he killed the Tuskens. Anakin cries (which we saw) - but continues on where he talks of his remorse for doing it and Padme tells him that he is only human.

5. Padme Wants Obi-Wan
After Padme's capture on Geonosis, she pleads with Dooku to free Obi-Wan.

6. Dooku Uses 2 Sabers
Dooku fights Yoda with TWO lightsabers.

7. Join me, Amidala
After Anakin and Amidala are captured, Dooku meets with them at the round table and tries to convince Amidala to join the separatists.

8. Bar Bouncer
Another deleted scene was before anakin and obi wan enter the bar, they are greeted with a bouncer who says jedi are not permitted to enter. The old rumor was that Anakin ignites his lightsaber to intimidate him but Obi-Wan uses a Jedi mind trick to enter.

9.Anakin Hits Dooku
The fightscene between Dooku and Anakin. There is a part when Anakin gets angry and finally manages to hurt Dooku is also cut.

10. Just Another Day at the Office
In the arena, just before Anakin asks Obi-Wan "What About Padme?" (which Obi responds "she seems to be on top of things"😉. Obi-Wan tells Anakin "Take the one on the right. I'll take the one on the left."....I love that one-liner. It just demonstates how even the arena is just another day in the office for a jedi knight.

11. Mace and Yoda Chat
In the screenplay (art of AOTC book) it lists scene 014 and 015, which were missing from the film (015 was a select image) Mace and Yoda in the Jedi temple corridor at night. Mace asks Yoda why they could not detect the attack on Amidala. They talk about how the dark side is growing in power and the prophecy coming true.

12. The End for You
Durning the final battle between Yoda and Dooku, originally yoda was to knock his lightsaber out of his hands, to stand on his head, and to say:The end for you, Count, this is. He aims the lightsaber above his head, preparing to stab, when dooku knocks him aside, and then lets the crane fall on Obi Wan and Annie. Originally, yoda was set to get under the crane, pushing it up from underneath, but that was later changed.

VERY ESPECIALLY THIS SCENE ! IT WAS IMPORTANT TO CLEARLY ESTABLISH YODA AS THE ULTIMATE MASTER.

Now I realize thats a lot of scenes, and would mean a good 20 minutes more to the movie at least ... but I feel the movie would have been substantially better from the point of view of storyline and screenplay, had these scenes been left in. To save in added time, I feel some of the love story scenes could have been trimmed ... I agree with Queeq ... the movie does drag during some of the love story portions, and these could use some editing.

A couple of other places where I felt the movie fell short ...

Firstly, Anakin came across a precocious young brat of a jedi padawan ... not as an exceptionally skilled young jedi ... and I think somehow, the latter SHOULD have been focussed on because .....

Secondly, by the end of the movie, he's still a LONG way from the sinister Darth Vader ... in the third part, there won't be enough time to show him as being a " Powerful Jedi ", as Yoda would later describe him to his son, and his fall to the dark side as well ... because his fall cannot be a sudden overnight thing, but a gradual process from light to darkness.

Therefore his jedi prime should have been focussed on more ... the wild driving in the chase scene does not do enough to show him as the " best starpilot in the galaxy " ... etc.etc. So by the time of episode 3, the focus can be on his fall entirely.

1. Don't Talk Back
They should have let that one in! It had one of the best lines in AOTC!!!

2. The Lost 20
Would be good if they had let it in, explains Dooku a bit more

4. More Remorse for Tusken Slaughter
The "more human" thing is very important IMO; it shows the love between the two and Anakin only being human and no super god

8. Bar Bouncer
It shows the dark side of anakin

9.Anakin Hits Dooku
good because it shows Anakin is already a good fighter

Those are the most important ones I think, if they shortened the love scenes they would have made room for scenes like "Don't talk back"

I dunno... do you really think the Lost 20 bit is necessary?

well, #3 would be over the top, but #2 would explain why Dooku chose that path and help us understand him, also enlarger the role of the librarian and gives more info on the JC

It just struck me as a rather unnecessary concept. I mean, if it had gone in, fine, but as deleted scenes go it wouldn't be one I would be crying for re-inclusion.

Well it does add to his mystique ... to hear that he was at one time actually a " Great ", " Noble " Jedi ... actually one of the good guys. It makes the viewer wonder more why he went over to the darkside.

Also not 100% certain of the accuracy of all that stuff. Not sure how well TFN seperated fact from fiction. The two sabres, the Lost 20, the Padme negotiating, that is all very kosher, but we have little or no evidence to support the Anakin cutting Dooku or Yoda getting the better of Dooku

Well Anakin nicking Dooku before being overwhelmed would have been a nice touch I feel ...

But I definitely feel that Yoda's superiority over Dooku should have been more clearly established.

Hmm, really not sure about that myself, I prefer it the way it is, but never mind.

Actually, maybe Lucas had a definite reason for not showing Yoda as terribly superior to Dooku ... wonder what.

Oh yeah, and one more thing ... I think he could have dispensed with the 3PO comedy hour special, smack in the middle of the battle in the arena ... with things moving at a mile a minute, when I was trying to catch as much of the detail as possible, in the middle of all the mayhem ( the third and fourth time, I was consciously trying to keep my attention on the background ), C-3PO wasn't funny - he was just plain irritating ... keeping him as comic relief in the midst of that extremely fast paced battle sequence was a bad move I think, because, at that point, ( I speak subjectively here ), I really wasnt in a mood for those silly jokes - so the humour objective wasn't realized - and those silly jokes only served in distracting me, so it worked contrary to the punch that the battle sequence was supposed to deliver. It lost out both ways. He should have done the 3PO comedy routine elsewhere, if he HAD to have it.

Ush, we have a few pictures to proof these scenes... accept the Dooku gettin hit part... never heared of that one before

and harm... it's about the same like in RotJ were 3PO and R2 get in the middle of the battle and they casual walk to the bunker

Have to agree with Harmax on the last point. I was getting caught up in the emotion of the battle and 3po kept jumping in with those silly lines...it was frustrating.

Errr... do you mean 'scene' singular, Yerss? Because if you ay there is nothing about Dooku being hit then there was only one other thing I said was bad, which is the Yoda beating him bit, which I have never seen any evidence for.

The other bits I described as 'kosher', as in I knew they had been filmed.

3PO's lines were pretty bad in the arena.... I agree. Pretty much Cringe City.

"What a drag." *being dragged by R2*
"I am quite beside myself" *head next to body*

I mean, get a real writer next time to do the comedy.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Errr... do you mean 'scene' singular, Yerss?

Ah...

There's about four hours of filmstory filmed. McCallum confirmed that.

I wouldn't trust McCallum on EVERYTHING ...

I'm sure like TPM, some of those scenes will be added into the actual film when its released on DVD, and many others will be on the special features DVD.