Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Yup but Nuke is basically Wildfire, he gives Supes or Adam Trouble alone, Durability feats, Look at Ledger in Africa v Hyperion, Big Explosion 🙂Adam doesn't take that sort of thing normally.
Nuke has appeared in only three issues. He hasn't show anything except flight and that bubble technique that didn't even hurt hyperion.
Originally posted by grey fox
Hyperion is a supes clone , and supes owns black adam (forget the magic lightning for a minute)
Its really not as simple as that, come on now GF 😉
Hyperion is extremely inexperienced. When he fought against a super powered trained soldier he was in major trouble and required aid. He just rushed in thinking his powers would be enough to get him through but he got whacked about the place. He has great potential but he's still an amateur. Yes he did do well against some powerful foes in his mini, however they were woefully inexperienced as well having little to no combat experience. Thats been the case with virtually all of his foes with the exception of the super powered psycho who had army training and look what happened there. Yeah Hypes crater feat wasnice but Black Adam regularly holds his own against people who can do that type of stuff in their sleep.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Its really not as simple as that, come on now GF 😉Hyperion is extremely inexperienced. When he fought against a super powered trained soldier he was in major trouble and required aid. He just rushed in thinking his powers would be enough to get him through but he got whacked about the place. He has great potential but he's still an amateur. Yes he did do well against some powerful foes in his mini, however they were woefully inexperienced as well having little to no combat experience. Thats been the case with virtually all of his foes with the exception of the super powered psycho who had army training and look what happened there. Yeah Hypes crater feat wasnice but Black Adam regularly holds his own against people who can do that type of stuff in their sleep.
He didn't require aid against Redstone, they wanted him alive he had him in a Nelson but they had planned to take him alive. He hasn't needed help at all yet. I would say the battle with Joe Ledger equally showed this, as did Hyperion issue 2. And no you don't see 10.5 level often and it was a warning he could cause an extinction level event.
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
He didn't require aid against Redstone, they wanted him alive he had him in a Nelson but they had planned to take him alive. He hasn't needed help at all yet. I would say the battle with Joe Ledger equally showed this, as did Hyperion issue 2. And no you don't see 10.5 level often and it was a warning he could cause an extinction level event.
Regardless Redstone clearly had the better of him and showed himself to be the better fighter of the two. Hyperion was in trouble and got sent across the horizon many a time.
Joe Ledgers military training is of no real aid to him when employing his power. He too is woefully inexperienced with his newfound power, Hyperion had had more practice with his as they were inherent too him however he still hasnt shown impressive combat feats against someone skilled in the use of their powers. The Joe Ledger case isnt a good example of why Hype would fare well against Black Adam. Black Adam and Joe are completely different. BA is a ruthless killer with a wealth of combat experience and with many good showings against Dcs top tier heroes who could certainly achieve Hypes best feat to date and more. If anything the Redstone fight is a good example of why BA would take him out. Hes too unproven for you too make it out as being as clear cut as youre doing.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Regardless Redstone clearly had the better of him and showed himself to be the better fighter of the two. Hyperion was in trouble and got sent across the horizon many a time.
funny I thought he had Redstone in a full Nelson lifted off the ground when the gum was inserted.
I know who Black Adam is I was reading about him a decade before you were born.
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
funny I thought he had Redstone in a full Nelson lifted off the ground when the gum was inserted.
Yep. Shortly before getting swatted across a variety of state lines for the majority of the battle. Redstone just knew how to fight. BA knows how to fight and has years of combat experience in employing his abilities against a variety of powerhouses, many of the Supes/Hype/Glad mould i.e super-strength, super-speed and flight.
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
I know who Black Adam is I was reading about him a decade before you were born.
Cool. So you should know what youre talking about then. Right? 🙂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Yep. Shortly before getting swatted across a variety of state lines for the majority of the battle. Redstone just knew how to fight. BA knows how to fight and has years of combat experience in employing his abilities against a variety of powerhouses, many of the Supes/Hype/Glad mould i.e super-strength, super-speed and flight.Cool. So you should know what youre talking about then. Right? 🙂
He got hit by Redstone twice and then took him out. Simple as that, he underestimated him. He has never really been hurt by anyone. Even the Nuke and Ledger Battles where he was knocked down he got straight back up. It always goes that way in comics the hero gets hit a few times then wins, thats almost every comic. 😕
Difference with Adam, is he gets the early hits in like most villians (and in his case I use the term loosely as he has his code) and then he loses. I have never seen him perform an extinction level event feat.
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
He got hit by Redstone twice and then took him out. Simple as that, he underestimated him. He has never really been hurt by anyone. Even the Nuke and Ledger Battles where he was knocked down he got straight back up. It always goes that way in comics the hero gets hit a few times then wins, thats almost every comic. 😕
Regardless, he is unproven and BA's experience and good showings against characters of the same mould is his major advantage here.
Redstoone was a better fighter than Hype and thats why he had the upper hand throughout the fight before eventually being defeated. BA is a good fighter plus has major experience in using his abilities
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Difference with Adam, is he gets the early hits in like most villians (and in his case I use the term loosely as he has his code) and then he loses. I have never seen him perform an extinction level event feat.
Ive never seen Supes go for a number two but do you think that means he cant? 😕
Black Adams multitude of showings against characters who could easily match and almost certainly surpass Hypes top feat show you that he's on Hypes level at least physically. On top of that he has major experience fighting against characters of similar abilities to Hype, characters who've performed better feats in terms of both speed, strength and durability.
Hype is unproven, he has never faced an opponent experienced in the employment of their abilities. BA not only fits the bill but also is of that same Supesesque mould. Hype has no obvious advantages in this match up. BA has fought characters with the same abilities as Hype, characters who are almost certainly more powerful and if not definitely more experienced than Hype with those powers.