Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Regardless, he is unproven and BA's experience and good showings against characters of the same mould is his major advantage here.Redstoone was a better fighter than Hype and thats why he had the upper hand throughout the fight before eventually being defeated. BA is a good fighter plus has major experience in using his abilities
Ive never seen Supes go for a number two but do you think that means he cant? 😕
Black Adams multitude of showings against characters who could easily match and almost certainly surpass Hypes top feat show you that he's on Hypes level at least physically. On top of that he has major experience fighting against characters of similar abilities to Hype, characters who've performed better feats in terms of both speed, strength and durability.
Hype is unproven, he has never faced an opponent experienced in the employment of their abilities. BA not only fits the bill but also is of that same Supesesque mould. Hype has no obvious advantages in this match up. BA has fought characters with the same abilities as Hype, characters who are almost certainly more powerful and if not definitely more experienced than Hype with those powers.
All drivel the number of blows exchanged in the Redstone bought was minimal and as soon as Hyperion turned it up he came out on top. Hyperion has not lost yet. Adam has hardly if ever won. So we have someone who is 4 : 0 with 4 wins in the win column v someone who is probably about 2 : 60 with 60 loses in the loss column. Yup Adam has lots more experience of losing. As for more powerful than Hyperion we'll have to wait and see!
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
All drivel the number of blows exchanged in the Redstone bought was minimal and as soon as Hyperion turned it up he came out on top. Hyperion has not lost yet. Adam has hardly if ever won. So we have someone who is 4 : 0 with 4 wins in the win column v someone who is probably about 2 : 60 with 60 loses in the loss column. Yup Adam has lots more experience of losing. As for more powerful than Hyperion we'll have to wait and see!
Its not as simple as that and you know it. The characters BA fought against and lost were experienced in the application of their abilities, they were not amateurs. Alot of them were of the Supes mould and were almost certainly stronger and definitely more experienced than Hype anyway so thats a bit of a moot point. Being able to consistently engage such foes over the years hand to hand and do well shows he's on their level physically and therefore on Hypes. Hyperion has never engaged a being who can do virtually everything he can do, who has far superior experience using those abilities in general and with fighting against the superman archetype which Hypes belongs to.
Hype has had a few on panel fights and despite eventually prevailing, hasnt done particularly well in any of them. To compound that all of those fights were against beings similarly inexperienced in their powers. The so called powerhouses you referred to earlier being quickly lumped together on a team as a desperate measure by the US government having little to no combat experience. With that in mind plus the fact that he's only been in about 4 confrontations its really not as simple as comparing their win to loss ratios. Come on mate.
BA has all the major advantages here. Hype has none. From what we've seen so far BA would far more likely prove to be the victor. ✅ 😉
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Its not as simple as that and you know it. The characters BA fought against and lost were experienced in the application of their abilities, they were not amateurs. Alot of them were of the Supes mould and were almost certainly stronger and definitely more experienced than Hype anyway so thats a bit of a moot point. Being able to consistently engage such foes over the years hand to hand and do well shows he's on their level physically and therefore on Hypes. Hyperion has never engaged a being who can do virtually everything he can do, who has far superior experience using those abilities in general and with fighting against the superman archetype which Hypes belongs to.Hype has had a few on panel fights and despite eventually prevailing, hasnt done particularly well in any of them. To compound that all of those fights were against beings similarly inexperienced in their powers. The so called powerhouses you referred to earlier being quickly lumped together on a team as a desperate measure by the US government having little to no combat experience. With that in mind plus the fact that he's only been in about 4 confrontations its really not as simple as comparing their win to loss ratios. Come on mate.
BA has all the major advantages here. Hype has none. From what we've seen so far BA would far more likely prove to be the victor. ✅ 😉
BA win loss record would indicate in any confrontation he is more likely to lose than win. Hyperion hasn't lost yet despite fighting a lot of heavyweights, shit his taken over the world by issue 3 of his mini, by this point his taken all comers.
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
BA win loss record would indicate in any confrontation he is more likely to lose than win. Hyperion hasn't lost yet despite fighting a lot of heavyweights, shit his taken over the world by issue 3 of his mini, by this point his taken all comers.
Not as simple as that for all the aforementioned reasons. BA fought seasoned heroes and true powerhouses, Hype fought a few times against woefully inexperienced foes with virtually no combat experience so of course he would win. When fighting said opponents he had great difficulty.
When fighting Redstone he was losing for the majority of the battle when fighting the team they didnt know what the hell they were doing as they'd just been slapped together as a quick fix solution and had no experience whatsoever. Hyperion didnt conclusively defeat the team he had an edge in the battle before Arcannas amateur tamperings brought the battle to an end. It certainly was far from easy for him.
BA is certainly on his level going by his multitude of showings against foes arguably greater than Hypes and definitely more experienced. Hypes has never fought a foe like BA. One who is physically on his level (debatably greater in areas like speed) and who has great combat experience with said abilities. Going by how Hype has struggled against total amateurs in virtually all of his confrontations id say BA is definitely the more likely to win. He has a poorer win to loss ratio because of the class of foe he engages. 😉
Hypes may have taken over the world in issue 3 but that is a Hype from a different reality, it is not the same Hype we're debating about here. On top of that thats not so impressive considering he is one of only a handful of those on the entire planet with super powers. We dont yet know the circumstances in which he took over the planet yet and plus its not the Hype we're debating about anyway, the one we've been following through the supreme power series. 😉