Originally posted by Deano
so then why did you say that castillo was gonna win? kinda retarded there. you clearly stated that castillo would win, suggesting that he isnt washed up like you are NOW making him out to be
In hindsight after looking at his performance he is on the downward slope of his career, but there where plenty commentators that though he still had enough gas in the tank to take care of Hatton.
Originally posted by Deano
i think you are just slightly bias i think. more than you would like to admit.i dont really care if he is on the slope..even if he wasnt, that punch from hatton still would of dropped him.
Negative ghostrider. Go watch the first Corrales Vs Castillo fight and look at the amount of punishment he take from Corrales and you will see what I am talking about. Add to the fact that Mexican fighters are accustomed to take body shot and it really and that arguement holds no weight IMO. I am not biased at all every arguement I've stated I have backed it up with facts not with fly by night fanboyism so you can't call me biased at all. Untill Hatton proves himself against worthy opposition he is a bum. Period.
Originally posted by Caps Conscience
Ok I was going to give it a rest but Wright has never fought DLH. B-Hop was the one that beat him and Wright is the one that had a draw with Taylor. Taylor beat B-Hop twice. This post right here validates everything I said ealier. Thanx buddy.
oh **** yeah...i'm getting it the wrong way round...woops
but uuuhhh...my predictions were right...and your's weren't...yeah...there is that isn't there?...yeah...thats right...there is
so your post doesn't validate anything except that you called the wrong result and will probably do so again and again...
Negative ghostrider. Go watch the first Corrales Vs Castillo fight and look at the amount of punishment he take from Corrales and you will see what I am talking about. Add to the fact that Mexican fighters are accustomed to take body shot and it really and that arguement holds no weight IMO. I am not biased at all every arguement I've stated I have backed it up with facts not with fly by night fanboyism so you can't call me biased at all. Untill Hatton proves himself against worthy opposition he is a bum. Period.
your argument doesn't matter when Castillo himself said
"i've never been hit like that"
i'm presuming that means against anyone he's fought
you called him a bum before castillo...he beat castillo...you call him a bum after he beat castillo and before he beats whoever...he'll beat whoever and you'll still call him a bum...thats called bias
so...once again...hopkins v wright...katsidis v amonsot
3 weeks to go...
Originally posted by Caps Conscience
In hindsight after looking at his performance he is on the downward slope of his career, but there where plenty commentators that though he still had enough gas in the tank to take care of Hatton.
wasn't the case though...and there were plenty...in fact almost all commetators said that lacy would beat calzaghe...but thats another issue
you will have seen from the fight that castillo never looked like edging it at any point...he has a small 5 shot flurry in the 3rd but apart from that was over powered...i believe the stats said hatton hit him with only 4 jabs but over 40 power punches....
anyway...i'm trying to be civil but you're clearly determined to still be an ******* about it
for whatever reason...but its been fun
Originally posted by jaden101
wasn't the case though...and there were plenty...in fact almost all commetators said that lacy would beat calzaghe...but thats another issueyou will have seen from the fight that castillo never looked like edging it at any point...he has a small 5 shot flurry in the 3rd but apart from that was over powered...i believe the stats said hatton hit him with only 4 jabs but over 40 power punches....
anyway...i'm trying to be civil but you're clearly determined to still be an ******* about it
for whatever reason...but its been fun
None of that is indicative of where the fight could have gone if he didn't quit. So bringing up stats and all that is really irrelevant. The point is that Hatton hasn't beaten any grade A fighters at there best. Whether you want to admit it or not is besides the point.
Originally posted by jaden101
oh **** yeah...i'm getting it the wrong way round...woopsbut uuuhhh...my predictions were right...and your's weren't...yeah...there is that isn't there?...yeah...thats right...there is
so your post doesn't validate anything except that you called the wrong result and will probably do so again and again...
your argument doesn't matter when Castillo himself said
"i've never been hit like that"
i'm presuming that means against anyone he's fought
you called him a bum before castillo...he beat castillo...you call him a bum after he beat castillo and before he beats whoever...he'll beat whoever and you'll still call him a bum...thats called bias
so...once again...hopkins v wright...katsidis v amonsot
3 weeks to go...
Thank you for further validating everying I said, chumb. What else is he going to say after he quit. Uh, I quit. Doh......Yeah right. Rollseyes.
Originally posted by Caps Conscience
Thank you for further validating everying I said, chumb. What else is he going to say after he quit. Uh, I quit. Doh......Yeah right. Rollseyes.
he didn't quit though did he...he got beat...he couldn't get up...and what is "chumb"?
notice you aint making anymore predictions...wonder why?
Originally posted by jaden101
remember that comedian thing...yeah...wellhatton beat collazo...and hatton had a bad fight
so...off you pop...come back when you're ready
Callazo is a b level fighter. If Hatton is as great as you say even on a bad night he should have destroyed him. That the truth. It doesn't matter because I stopped taking anything you say seriously along time ago when it comes to boxing. Callazo got robbed that night even if Hatton had a bad fight it doesn't negate the fact that he got his ass beat by a "b" level fighter. He should not be undefeated right now.
Originally posted by Caps Conscience
Callazo is a b level fighter. If Hatton is as great as you say even on a bad night he should have destroyed him. That the truth. It doesn't matter because I stopped taking anything you say seriously along time ago when it comes to boxing. Callazo got robbed that night even if Hatton had a bad fight it doesn't negate the fact that he got his ass beat by a "b" level fighter. He should not be undefeated right now.
we're going round in circles i fear...
i rate hatton...u dont...will we leave it at that?
Originally posted by Deano
dont argue with bias people jaden. its like arguing with a horse. you'll never win. believe me ive tryed
Meh nobody is biased I have backed everything I've said up If he were any good i wouldn't have problem saying it. It's just that he simply isn't as good as he is made out to be and he definitely hasn't done anything to warant a shot at Mayweather but I will just leave it at that.
Before the prediction thing comes up again, I would like to point out that Teddy Atlas who is the equivalent of a boxing God has been wrong on some prediction. It in no way takes away from his credibility.
I have backed everything I've said up
i dont think you have...you have given your opinion...you've said that records dont matter...the stats of fights dont matter...the boxers own words after a fight dont matter
although i agree with you on Calzaghe fighting Kessler...it would be good...i think Calzaghe may only have a couple of fights left in him though cause he didn't look his best against manfredo jnr and he aint getting any younger
although...again...i rate him as a top fighter but you dont...and it's not geographical bias...
Originally posted by jaden101
i dont think you have...you have given your opinion...you've said that records dont matter...the stats of fights dont matter...the boxers own words after a fight dont matteralthough i agree with you on Calzaghe fighting Kessler...it would be good...i think Calzaghe may only have a couple of fights left in him though cause he didn't look his best against manfredo jnr and he aint getting any younger
although...again...i rate him as a top fighter but you dont...and it's not geographical bias...
There is absolutely nothing that I hold against Hatton. He is just a fighter to me just like Cotto, or Mayweather. The only difference is that Cotto and Mayweather aren't overhyped. Hatton needs to prove alot and the only reason he is getting a shot is because of enormous following. But as a fighter he is on Gatti's level not Mayweathers. Everybody knows that records don't matter, because fighters can be given easy fights to protect their records(which is the case with Hatton). I've never mentioned stats so I don't know where thats coming from. I have been following these guys' careers for along time and when they perform out of character in the ring I recognize. Actions speak louder then words and thats all I will say about it.
Originally posted by Caps Conscience
There is absolutely nothing that I hold against Hatton. He is just a fighter to me just like Cotto, or Mayweather. The only difference is that Cotto and Mayweather aren't overhyped. Hatton needs to prove alot and the only reason he is getting a shot is because of enormous following. But as a fighter he is on Gatti's level not Mayweathers. Everybody knows that records don't matter, because fighters can be given easy fights to protect their records(which is the case with Hatton). I've never mentioned stats so I don't know where thats coming from. I have been following these guys' careers for along time and when they perform out of character in the ring I recognize. Actions speak louder then words and thats all I will say about it.
i haven't seen all that much of Cotto unfortunately because the boxing coverage that doesn't involve either title fights or UK fighters is sketchy at best...everyone has faced easy opposition in their careers because that's the way it works...you fight the journeymen
i mentioned the stats...(jabs v power punches if you recall) and you said they meant nothing...
as for actions speaking louder than words...i'd say putting a fighter down for the 1st time in his career speaks volumes...and at 33 castillo is hardly over the hill
as for Hatton only being on level with Arturo Gatti?....mmm...i couldn't see Hatton ever losing to the likes of Angel Manfredy or Ivan Robinson...let alone twice
Originally posted by jaden101
i haven't seen all that much of Cotto unfortunately because the boxing coverage that doesn't involve either title fights or UK fighters is sketchy at best...everyone has faced easy opposition in their careers because that's the way it works...you fight the journeymeni mentioned the stats...(jabs v power punches if you recall) and you said they meant nothing...
as for actions speaking louder than words...i'd say putting a fighter down for the 1st time in his career speaks volumes...and at 33 castillo is hardly over the hill
as for Hatton only being on level with Arturo Gatti?....mmm...i couldn't see Hatton ever losing to the likes of Angel Manfredy or Ivan Robinson...let alone twice
Put the quote up where I said stats mean nothing. The only time where I said anything remotely close to that is when I was talking about the PBF and DLH fight and I said that compubox isn't all that reliable.
I would agree with you if the fighter was at his best and didn't quit unfortunately Castillo was not at his best and he quit, so the point is moot. And I saw Hatton lose to Callozo so loosing to those guys is not that far fetched. As far as Cotto goes he is the real deal because of what he did against Judah. He beat Judah on a night when Judah at the top of his game. Judah was trying to take his head off with every punch and Cotto still pulled out the W. Even Emanuel Stewart was saying that Castillo was fighting like a shot fighter. <----Backing up my points. And yes fighters get easy fights but when they want to be ranked up there with the best in the world you have to have top rated fighters who fought at there best on your resume'. Hatton is the only named fighter who lacks this and that his why he is disrespected by other boxer and boxing experts. He hasn't proven himself against worthy opposition.