I have more respect for Pacquiao,Marquez, for the simple fact they are boxers not entertainers like Mayweather, they will fight who ever is in front of them, and not ducking people because you can and because you don't want to pay a promoter, or fight people past their prime so you can pad up your record.
You fight your peers in there prime not when they are passed it, and Mayweather has done that. Dont get me wrong he is a very good boxer and the best defensive fighters in boxing history but that doesn't mean you can't get KO, and that's what Mayweather is afraid of, ducking Pacquiao fighting fighter pass their prime.
Im wanting for that day, when somebody puts Mayweather to sleep!!
Originally posted by the Darkone
I have more respect for Pacquiao,Marquez, for the simple fact they are boxers not entertainers like Mayweather, they will fight who ever is in front of them, and not ducking people because you can and because you don't want to pay a promoter, or fight people past their prime so you can pad up your record.You fight your peers in there prime not when they are passed it, and Mayweather has done that. Dont get me wrong he is a very good boxer and the best defensive fighters in boxing history but that doesn't mean you can't get KO, and that's what Mayweather is afraid of, ducking Pacquiao fighting fighter pass their prime.
Im wanting for that day, when somebody puts Mayweather to sleep!!
as far as the mayweather-pacquiao fight not happening, you can't put all blame on one side since both made ridiculous excuses to avoid the fight. pacquiao's promoter having the most documented excuses actually. i believe it could've been made years ago had pac agreed to simple drug testing. instead his promoter chose to keep the fights in-house, with all the contract stipulations they could take advantage of against washed up names, unranked fighters, or fighters coming off losses. ironically, pacquiao is more guilty of your criticism than mayweather is.
Originally posted by Mezark
this is bullshit really. floyd ko'd a prime undefeated ricky hatton, dominated a younger marquez who was P4P #2 at the time, has consistently fought top 5 ranked fighters, and champions since his comeback in '09. those are facts.as far as the mayweather-pacquiao fight not happening, you can't put all blame on one side since both made ridiculous excuses to avoid the fight. pacquiao's promoter having the most documented excuses actually. i believe it could've been made years ago had pac agreed to simple drug testing. instead his promoter chose to keep the fights in-house, with all the contract stipulations they could take advantage of against washed up names, unranked fighters, or fighters coming off losses. ironically, pacquiao is more guilty of your criticism than mayweather is.
* ahh... no... just remember that Floyd is not the boxing authority to demand a drug testing... and Floyd demands it only on Pacquiao... so the reason is obvious... 😉
Originally posted by peejayd
* ahh... no... just remember that Floyd is not the boxing authority to demand a drug testing... and Floyd demands it only on Pacquiao... so the reason is obvious... 😉
mosley, ortiz, and cotto took the test when they fought floyd so no, pacquiao isn't the only one being victimized here. he's the only one who's refused to take it for whatever reason. funny thing is, bob arum and pacquiao are now talking about extra testing if a 5th marquez fight happens.
at the end of the day, money may agreed to all their demands when the fight mattered (ring size, gloves, money split, weight stipulations, you name it), pac wouldn't budge on a single demand.
Originally posted by Mezark
mosley, ortiz, and cotto took the test when they fought floyd so no, pacquiao isn't the only one being victimized here. he's the only one who's refused to take it for whatever reason.
* yeah, that was after his negotiations with Pacquiao... but before that, there's none! it was reported that the Mayweather-Mosley fight was the first in the United States to go under Olympic-style drug testing... why would anyone propose something like that if he's confident that he can beat the guy? 🙄
Originally posted by Mezark
funny thing is, bob arum and pacquiao are now talking about extra testing if a 5th marquez fight happens.
* nothing funny here... that's just logical... the fact of the matter was, eventhough Pacquiao (according to you) is now demanding an additional test, the Pacquiao-Marquez already happened! the demand of Pacquiao came after the match, not before the match...
* the point here was, Pacquiao's demand of an additional test is kinda logical, and not of the purpose of ducking the fight because the fight already happened... whereas, Mayweather's obvious reason is to find a reason to duck a fight with Pacquiao... the facts are clear, bro...
Originally posted by peejayd
* yeah, that was [b]after his negotiations with Pacquiao... but before that, there's none! it was reported that the Mayweather-Mosley fight was the first in the United States to go under Olympic-style drug testing... why would anyone propose something like that if he's confident that he can beat the guy? 🙄[/B]
Originally posted by peejayd
* nothing funny here... that's just logical... the fact of the matter was, eventhough Pacquiao (according to you) is now demanding an additional test, the Pacquiao-Marquez already happened! the demand of Pacquiao came [b]after the match, not before the match...* the point here was, Pacquiao's demand of an additional test is kinda logical, and not of the purpose of ducking the fight because the fight already happened... whereas, Mayweather's obvious reason is to find a reason to duck a fight with Pacquiao... the facts are clear, bro... [/B]
you went from "floyd is not the boxing authority, he can't demand a drug test!" to "well... it's logical for pac to do it..."
😂
Originally posted by Robtard
Pacquiao is known to be a whiny little *****. Was happy to hear Marquez punched his ticket, as I don't watch boxing anymore.
Originally posted by Mezark
so did mayweather have the benefit of hindsight? did he know pac was going to make 20 excuses to dodge a drug test? he had suspicions but that's his opinion. he wanted a safe, clean fight for everybody. what happened before is irrelevant. he agreed to everything pacquiao demanded, pac didn't. take it or leave it.
* Mayweather does not want to tarnish his streak, and to put it simply, he knows Pacquiao has a big chance of doing it... that's why he proposed a never-before-done Olympic-style drug testing... face the facts --- Mayweather did not ask for any tests when he's up against Juan Manuel Márquez, Ricky Hatton and Oscar De La Hoya... simply because he is very confident that he can beat them... but when the negotiations to a Pacquiao match rises? boom! Olympic-style drug testing, baby! yeah... that's the fact --- take it or leave it...
Originally posted by Mezark
if you don't find the hypocrisy in a guy who basically killed the fight because he was afraid of giving blood and is suddenly all go for it because they think their opponent might be cheating then... whatever. the only thing clear here is your biased opinion.you went from "floyd is not the boxing authority, he can't demand a drug test!" to "well... it's logical for pac to do it..."
* just because you don't understand something, doesn't mean my opinion is biased... ok, let me spell it out for ya ---
Mayweather-Pacquiao match ---> never happened
Mayweather proposed a never-before-done Olympic-style drug testing
Marquez-Pacquiao match ---> already happened 4 freakin' times!
and after the 4th match, Pacquiao demanded an additional testing
Pacquiao has suspicions on Marquez after their 4th match, a much more credible suspicion since it was their 4th match, and Marquez seemed stronger than he was in the last three fights they had...
Mayweather has suspicions on Pacquiao, based on what? pure suspicions... Mayweather doesn't even have a basis, just pure suspicions...
* and you're defending Mayweather? seems to me, you're the one who's biased...