Vodo vs. Yoda

Originally posted by Numan
tdtd is right here. You're thinking of Vodo's best feats and exxagerating them like hell. For instance where the hell are you going with how Vodo was able to duel with a wooden staff? Big deal. You have absolutely no proof that this was anything special. And you guys keep on telling tdtd to prove up when he is not arguing for Yoda or Vodo and doesn't need any proof and only needs to comment on your lack of it. You have completely ignored the extent of strength and focus that Yodacould use with the force. You are all fanboys of the ancient sith because you think it makes you original and sets you aside from the regular star wars fans. Believe me it doesn't.

Exar Kun isn't an ancient Sith. And since when do we "think this is being original"? The Ancient Sith win in most versus threads because they were either shown, demonstrated, or extrapoloated as being godlier and stronger than the rest of them. That's pretty explicit, even a casual play of KotOR will tell you that much.

We don't know much about Vodo's staff? We know that there are few materials (cortosis excluded) that resist lightsabers, and we don't know of another individual that did the same thing. Arguing against the omniscient (I suggest looking it up) narrator when he says Vodo could make his staff "more powerful than a lightsaber" is being silly and petty. Picking up things with the force? Big deal, practically every one has been shown to use telekinesis, many of them on a huge scale as well.

Lack of proof? So being the de facto leader of a martial order with more knowledge counts for nothing? You'd rather vote for someone who sits on his green ass all day with a smaller, more ineffectual Jedi Order that has 90% of them practicing the comparatively useless form of Num.. errr Niman? A jedi order that hasn't seen a sith for a millenia and wouldn't know even know what an ancient sith is? Logical deduction is valid proof in a debate. Deduction and Induction both are. It is not my problem that you lack the ability to make your own damn conclusions and like to parrot popular notions while not offering any actual proof.

So when you decide to cut it out with the psuedointellectualism and learn to one-two step in a debate, come back and talk.

Illustrious no offense but you and the other tools on this forum have the reading comprehension skills of a 9 year old girl. I will say it one more time.. Nobody is ****ing voting for YODA. We're claiming that you don't have enough evidence to support that Vodo would defeat Yoda, that is ALL.. You tools need to learn how to read..

Originally posted by tdtd
Illustrious no offense but you and the other tools on this forum have the reading comprehension skills of a 9 year old girl. I will say it one more time.. Nobody is ****ing voting for YODA. We're claiming that you don't have enough evidence to support that Vodo would defeat Yoda, that is ALL.. You tools need to learn how to read..

You must have the reading comprehension skills of a newborn then. Because you obviously didn't read the post. Particularly this part:

Lack of proof? So being the de facto leader of a martial order with more knowledge counts for nothing? You'd rather vote for someone who sits on his green ass all day with a smaller, more ineffectual Jedi Order that has 90% of them practicing the comparatively useless form of Num.. errr Niman? A jedi order that hasn't seen a sith for a millenia and wouldn't know even know what an ancient sith is? Logical deduction is valid proof in a debate. Deduction and Induction both are. It is not my problem that you lack the ability to make your own damn conclusions and like to parrot popular notions while not offering any actual proof.

Logical deduction shows Vodo is on a higher tier than Yoda. That means the burden of proof is back in your corner to prove that Yoda is on Vodo's level. Got it? You and your "well maybe Yoda has more years to train" or "well Yoda is shown in the movies, har har!" is just being silly.

Yeah sure, whip out the personal insults when you get your ass pwned, smart habit.

Originally posted by Illustrious
You must have the reading comprehension skills of a newborn then. Because you obviously didn't read the post. Particularly this part:

Logical deduction shows Vodo is on a higher tier than Yoda. That means the burden of proof is back in your corner to prove that Yoda is on Vodo's level. Got it? You and your "well maybe Yoda has more years to train" or "well Yoda is shown in the movies, har har!" is just being silly.

Yeah sure, whip out the personal insults when you get your ass pwned, smart habit.

When did I say Yoda had more years to train or Yoda was in the movies? Sounds like you need to learn how to read, now stop embarassing yourself because you haven't pwned anyone. You just make yourself look stupid repeating yourself everytime and putting words into my text. I can be stupid like you and say "Well Yoda dispatched 2 dark Jedi without a lightsaber" or Yoda can use force lightning or force absorb, you know stupid arguments like you seem to make. You still have not shown conclusive evidence that Vodo is more powerful than Yoda..

TDTD READ THE ****IN POST

Ok with your logic, NJO luke can defeat anybody because of all his feats that were described. Doesn't matter if it's conclusive or not, he could take, let's say Kun because he can manipulate black holes use emerald lightning blah blah blah.

Originally posted by tdtd
When did I say Yoda had more years to train or Yoda was in the movies? Sounds like you need to learn how to read, now stop embarassing yourself because you haven't pwned anyone. You just make yourself look stupid repeating yourself everytime and putting words into my text. I can be stupid like you and say "Well Yoda dispatched 2 dark Jedi without a lightsaber" or Yoda can use force lightning or force absorb, you know stupid arguments like you seem to make. You still have not shown conclusive evidence that Vodo is more powerful than Yoda..

When did I ever say because Vodo did this, he is stronger than Yoda?

Stop being daft. I used logical deduction based upon their the era and onpanel feats and put them in context.

Vodo's was the de facto leader of an order which was martial, had thousands upon thousands of members, had the stronghold of knowledge on Ossus, had alien Jedi of immense lifespans that demonstrated incredible force feats (rooting oneself to the ground as a tree, stripping another of the force, trapping someone with a wall of light, removing the bolts from a droid army).

Yoda was the de facto leader of an order where 90% of the users used Niman, they get pwned by droids, they practically gave up on Makashi because they DON'T DUEL OUTSIDE OF SPARRING, they haven't seen a Sith in nearly a millenia, and so forth.

Yet Yoda is superior? Based on logical deduction, you have to prove Yoda is even in the same league. If you are arguing against conventional logic, it is your job to bring the goods, got it?

As for your stupid statements, I have plenty of them from this thread alone:

I never said Yoda was better, some of you morons don't read well. I just said you can't prove that Vodo is better.

Uh... both Deduction and Induction are proof. Next.

Whatever Yoda gets more chicks

Yep, great argument.

Yup.. I'm by no means a fan of the PT era but I know Yoda was one of the greatest force users ever and Dooku one of the greatest lightsaber duelists..

Uh huh, proof?

because there isn't any evidence that isn't fanboyism.

Yes, because logic is biased.

Where's the proof? Since you guys love discussing logic so much, where is the logical proof? I understand if you put up Kun vs. Yoda it's obvious, but where's the logic in this? Nerds

Provided. Now where's yours? Love how you punctuate it with an insult.

Stop posting, you're digging yourself a bigger hole. I never used one feat to exaggerate Vodo's abilities. The fact that he was more respected and powerful than other Jedi Masters who have demonstrated superior abilities to the PT era Jedi is plenty. Sit down.

Originally posted by tdtd
Ok with your logic, NJO luke can defeat anybody because of all his feats that were described. Doesn't matter if it's conclusive or not, he could take, let's say Kun because he can manipulate black holes use emerald lightning blah blah blah.

Uh huh, that's because it was never about the feats. Good lord, read the post.

I love how angry you kids get lol.. Ok Vodo is uber elite he would make Yoda his ***** any day of the week he wins, now go to sleep.

Originally posted by tdtd
I love how angry you kids get lol.. Ok Vodo is uber elite he would make Yoda his ***** any day of the week he wins, now go to sleep.

Yep, I'm so angry that you're the one using the personal attacks and insults. Nice one, tiger.

Like I said, I'm entertained by noobs, I don't get pissed off because of them 😉. But I'm glad you have your fallback once you were thoroughly pwned.

LOL. A star wars geek gets entertained by "noobs".. That's irony for you🙂

Originally posted by tdtd
LOL. A star wars geek gets entertained by "noobs".. That's irony for you🙂

Yeah, that's why you have a Ragnos sig, right?

Good one, let's throw more hypocritical statements! You should do standup, those tomatoes can taste pretty good.

Having someone make me a sig because it looks cool makes me a nerd? AHAHAHA wow... Quit while youre behind..

Why don't you both just shut up about it. tdtd you've lost, i've lost... Look they are right the most logical thing to happen is Vodo winning, the evidence may not be overwelming but its there. Going on and on about this and making it personal isn't going to change anything or do any good just drop it.

Yea fishy maybe so but it's fun to get these nerds riled up...

No, I'm referring to you calling someone a SW nerd when you started this thread, posted in it far more than I did, and you are the one with a SW sig.

And I love the selective quoting. Having trouble thinking up of comebacks? Keep it up, you'll be a verifiable Einstein.

Originally posted by tdtd
Yea fishy maybe so but it's fun to get these nerds riled up...

Takes one to know one, now just drop it. What is it with people and wanting to have the last word.

Comebacks? What are you, a little unintelligent child? Who is trying to think up comebacks? I love your lack of reading comprehension skills. I don't care if I lose an argument about a star wars thread, but you keep on embarassing yourself with your cute little remarks.

ok man why are you calling everyone a star wars nerd, you think you know more than anyone: TDTD you ARE a star wars nerd

Originally posted by tdtd
Comebacks? What are you, a little unintelligent child? Who is trying to think up comebacks? I love your lack of reading comprehension skills. I don't care if I lose an argument about a star wars thread, but you keep on embarassing yourself with your cute little remarks.

Cute, kinda like this one?

I'll let this post speak for itself. And you say you like riling people up. 😂