Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
It speaks for the "British People" as thats the concept behind division of state and the legal system.
I think you need to realize that there is a difference between the Laws of a country and the actual people from a country. I guess you are a conformist and everything your government says you agree with, nothing wrong with that, just not appliable to everyone.
Originally posted by Bardock42I may not agree with all the laws, but I agree with the principles benind most of them, I would actually like to see a similar law to this Austrian one in the UK! Although with slightly less harsh punishment and enforcement. Although it could be argued thats the Austrian mentality "Show no mercy".
I think you need to realize that there is a difference between the Laws of a country and the actual people from a country. I guess you are a conformist and everything your government says you agree with, nothing wrong with that, just not appliable to everyone.
Originally posted by fintiOn not proud of Freedom of speech when it is used by the wicked to deny and justify evil acts, "lest we forget".
well the western wold are so f*ucking proud of these freedom of speech and press thingie, well Irvin are entitled to his opinion if he wants to make an ass of himself so...........but put him in jail for stating his opinion on the matter too far fetched.
And even if he can't prove it he should still be able to say it. What would have happened if we would people in jail for saying the government made a mistake. Perhaps they are wrong and lying and spraeding hatred. Or perhaps they are right but they will never get the chance to prove it because they are in jail. Sure thats way worse then whats happening here, but somebody has been thrown in jail for having an opinion. Not for acting on it, not for making other people act on it, no he just had an opinion and he's in jail because of that. Thats just insane.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/gibson.asp
http://atheism.about.com/b/a/061810.htm
some reading material on our pal mel.
Does his dad know Deano?
Gibson, whose father, Hutton Gibson is a notorious Holocaust denier and who claims the the World Trade Center was destroyed by remote control and not by al Queda; that the Second Vatican Council was a Masonic plot backed by the Jews and that all popes going back to John XXIII have been illegitimate "anti-popes". I see "Grand Moff Gav" lurking his opinion should be interesting.
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
British historian David Irving was sentenced in Austria to three years in prison after pleading guilty on Monday to charges of denying the Holocaust, saying he erred in contending there were no Nazi gas chambers during the Second World War.Irving could have received a 10-year prison term. Under Austrian law, it is a crime to publicly diminish, deny or justify the Holocaust.
http://www.cbc.ca/storyview/MSN/world/national/2006/02/20/irving-holocaust060220.html
Some things still just can't be justified, thats the nice thing about European law!
This is a sad day for both the historical world and political freedoms...
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
British historian David Irving was sentenced in Austria to three years in prison after pleading guilty on Monday to charges of denying the Holocaust, saying he erred in contending there were no Nazi gas chambers during the Second World War.Irving could have received a 10-year prison term. Under Austrian law, it is a crime to publicly diminish, deny or justify the Holocaust.
http://www.cbc.ca/storyview/MSN/world/national/2006/02/20/irving-holocaust060220.html
Some things still just can't be justified, thats the nice thing about European law!
This is a sad day for both the historical world and political freedoms...
Originally posted by PVS🙁 .......But he was my buddy......bad bad Mel.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/gibson.asphttp://atheism.about.com/b/a/061810.htm
some reading material on our pal mel.
Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
This is a sad day for both the historical world and political freedoms...
Interestingly Hit and Miss raised an interesting point that our new hate crimes laws might be applicable in a similar way!!! How cool is that!!!! Double post from Gav, edit one to a smiley pal!
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Interestingly Hit and Miss raised an interesting point that our new hate crimes laws might be applicable in a similar way!!! How cool is that!!!! Double post from Gav, edit one to a smiley pal!
Not cool, you shouldn't be happy with people limiting freedom of speech in any way shape or form.