"Yep, but Supes upgraded by motherbox still wasn't enough to take on Doomsday."
Oly- Define *upgrade*. For me there isent anything suggesting he became physically enchanted. The upgrade was more in weaponry designed perhaps, to face Doomsday than anything.
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"Even with the aid of others, including Darkseid Avatar, Waverider and the other energy being who was using world destroying blasts, they still had to last resort 'teleport to the end of time' battlefield removal win."
Oly- You mean Jobberseid? We all know the level hes been in years...Waverider is for me below in terms of power, than any of the powerful guns in this team. Let it be Thor/Quasar or Sersi.
Radiant had the problem of having already encountered and defeating Doomsday before. He was specifically evolved. You have here in this team, two who can perform planet busting stuff.
We just have more big guns here on Superman level and above. Something i dont think HP has encountered when facing the ones above mentioned.
Originally posted by olympianWell, it was just an Avatar of Darkseid, not actually him. And Waverider is like Silver Surfer with time powers, and Radiant was a badass energy being.
"Yep, but Supes upgraded by motherbox still wasn't enough to take on Doomsday."Oly- Define *upgrade*. For me there isent anything suggesting he became physically enchanted. The upgrade was more in weaponry to figth Doomsday than anything.
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"Even with the aid of others, including Darkseid Avatar, Waverider and the other energy being who was using world destroying blasts, they still had to last resort 'teleport to the end of time' battlefield removal win."
Oly- You mean Jobberseid? We all know the level hes been in years...Waverider is for me below in terms of power, than any of the powerful guns in this team. Let it be Thor/Quasar or Sersy.
Radiant had the infortunance of having already encountered and defeating Doomsday before. He was specifically evolved. You have here in this team, two who can perform planet busting stuff.
We just have more big guns here on Superman level and above. Something i dont think HP has encountered when facing the ones above mentioned.
Originally posted by olympianMost feats he's shown are relative to them in one form or another. I can't recall all of them offhand, as the character hasn't really been used but a couple of time since the mid nintetys.[Couple times in about a decade]
What feats does Waverider has? Other than his time powers.
However, a small piece of his being created Extant who help cause Zero Hour. Extant decimated the entire JSA, killing most of them. And he only had a piece of Waverider's power.
He can read the entire history of any creature, he's done time stops, dimension hops, teleportation, he can mimick Flash-like superspeed with it. He can shoot energy blasts. Blah.