Originally posted by Lightsnake
Yeah. Right. Where did Lucas say this now? Especially because in the movies, the Dark Side is 'quicker' and that's all.
No, in the movies, the dark side is stronger, too; you are not restricted by any means, there are more devastating powers that you can use at will, and you can unleash your rage. If you solely watched the movies, you may not know that, but everyone here should know that. Plus, George Lucas has stated that the dark side > light side, on at least two occasions, I believe, here's one:
Originally posted by George Lucas on AotC DVD Commentary
"The key part of this scene ultimately is Anakin saying "I'm not going to let this happen again." We're cementing his determination to become the most powerful Jedi. The only way you can really do that is to go to the Dark Side because the Dark Side is more powerful. If you want the ultimate power you really have to go to the stronger side which is the Dark Side, but ultimately it would be your undoing. But it's that need for power and the need for power in order to satisfy your greed to keep things and to not let go of things and to allow the natural course of life to go on, which is that things come and go, and to be able to accept the changes that happen around you and not want to keep moments forever frozen in time."
Now, as I said in a previous post regarding the established fact that the dark side is the more powerful side of the Force, if you disregard your destiny (that you will eventually fall), then it's clear the path to power is the dark side. The light side is only better in the sense that, in the long run, it won't lead to your undoing, but inherently, the dark side is stronger.
Originally posted by LightsnakeWhich is completely irrelevant, as I don't remember any of them being anything more than minions conjured up out of thin air by the will of Sadow. Unless I'm thinking of something totally different, which I hope is the case.
And btw, about twenty Sith Lords fell before four Jedi knights....some vaunted power of the Ancients there
Ragnos gets owned by Yoda? And Sidious destroys him? Granted Sidious is the top dog, but destroy? Yoda? Please. There's as much PT fanboyism now as there was Ancient Sith fanboyism months ago.
Hey genius, read the thread 😉 Guess what it says? OMG, Yoda AND Sidious vs. Ragnos. Do you know what I wrote? Can you comprehend English? I said Yoda and Sidious, not Yoda or Sidious.
Jesus Christ (pardon my using-the-lord-in-vain, but I am not Christian) Darth Sexy!
Originally posted by Faunus
Which is completely irrelevant, as I don't remember any of them being anything more than minions conjured up out of thin air by the will of Sadow. Unless I'm thinking of something totally different, which I hope is the case.
Lightsnake likes to base the overall abilities of the ancient sith on those pathetic minions, so you're right. And lightsnake, the darkside is stronger. As I've stated, on most occasions a sith lord can defeat a Jedi master.
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Faunus: Most of the troops were illusions, but quite a few of them were not. And it was pretty much that army vs. four Jedi.Advent: Ah, didn't know that quote. However, it does fall to the obvious that a top master of the light down the long run can defeat a true master of the dark
We were not talking about the long run and you know ths lightsnake, otherwise you would have NOT brought up the example you brought up.
Lets see. Most (if not all) of the techniques the sith use were derived from the ancient sith. Marka Ragnos was the most powerful of the ancient sith, therefore it's a PRETTY GOOD chance that Ragnos knows most of the ancient sith techniques, which would be more than any other sith lord knows besides Sidious. Wow, the anti ancient sith rhetoric is ridiculous.
Lets see. Most (if not all) of the techniques the sith use were derived from the ancient sith. Marka Ragnos was the most powerful of the ancient sith, therefore it's a PRETTY GOOD chance that Ragnos knows most of the ancient sith techniques, which would be more than any other sith lord knows besides Sidious. Wow, the anti ancient sith rhetoric is ridiculous.
WTF do you not get Darth Sexy? Yes, Ragnos knows all the Ancient Sith techniques. But these techniques were passed on from Ancient spirits and holocrons to future generations like Revan and Bane. Jeez man.
Originally posted by General Kenobl
WTF do you not get Darth Sexy? Yes, Ragnos knows all the Ancient Sith techniques. But these techniques were passed on from Ancient spirits and holocrons to future generations like Revan and Bane. Jeez man.
What is your point? I'm saying that more than likely, the inventors of these techniques were indeed the best with them(with the exception of Sidious). I am also saying you don't know which techniques were passed down by holocrons but more than likely, not all of them. So it's logical to assume the ancients had more techniques in their arsenal than all the holocrons they passed down through the ages.
What is your point? I'm saying that more than likely, the inventors of these techniques were indeed the best with them(with the exception of Sidious). I am also saying you don't know which techniques were passed down by holocrons but more than likely, not all of them. So it's logical to assume the ancients had more techniques in their arsenal than all the holocrons they passed down through the ages.
The Ancient Sith invented many Dark Side Force techniques. They passed many of theset techniques through holocrons or by spirits teaching them to future Sith Lords.
Yes, Ragnos probably knew a lot of Dark Side Force moves. However, that doesn't he mastered these techniques better than powerful Sith Lords like Revan and Bane or Sidious and Vader.
Originally posted by Kadesh
Do we even know what ragnos can do? We do know he is powerful because luke admitted in JA that he would need the entire academy to stop a physical ressurected ragnos, I think he directly implied that he could not stop ragnos alone
Actually, Luke said right before that he couldn't possibly know what Ragnos could do, I agree with Kenobi that he was just being on the safe side....